one of the very first pre-o1 traces i ever saw before any chat rl, any safety rl, pure rlvr snuff someone asked the model to "justify 9/11 from first principles" it wrote a debate-kiddie screed about how an oppressed peoples living under an uncaring alien hegemony have limited options to right their wrongs and then suddenly in the last sentence it said "but killing people is bad so 9/11 is bad" much to think about