Dario reveals the moment he realized he had to leave OpenAI and start Anthropic "The moment when I realized that we needed to found our own company, that OpenAI was not the right place for us was when I was like, look, these safety issues are difficult. You can have lots of disagreements on them." "I disagree with the co-founders and with lots of people at Anthropic, but the reason we've been able to resolve these disagreements is because they're held in good faith. Should we release this model or should we wait? Should we put stronger or weaker bio safeguards on the model?" "How much of our effort should we spend lobbying for safety regulations and what should they look like? These are all good faith disagreements, but they always get resolved because there's always trust that everyone is trying to get to the right answer and everyone is being honest." "My point in saying that there's a breakdown of trust is simply to make the abstract point that if you don't believe that about a place where you're working, if you don't believe that the disagreements are being held in good faith and that you're getting the real story from people, how can you possibly hope to resolve them?" "That's why we left. That's why we founded our own thing."