It used to take five days and two people to assess a website’s security, according to Armadin co-founder/CEO Kevin Mandia. Now it costs $5 and takes about 10 minutes. As the leaders of the top frontier labs call for more regulation, Mandia argues that essential AI development for tasks like cybersecurity will continue regardless. He’s joined on TWiAI Ep 31 by another panelist working on critical AI we have to get right: detecting financial fraud. Soups Ranjan of Sardine AI joins the panel. @lons, @alex, @soupsranjan, @sardine, @ArmadinSecurity, @Jason 0:00 Dario Amodei's "We Must Pace the Frontier" essay 1:51 Kevin Mandia: how scared should we be of agentic attack swarms? 6:53 Rogue agents vs. humans pointing AI at a target 9:52 250,000 fraudulent account signups in two days 16:59 Sam Altman's two ways AI fails 19:41 Open-weight models are catching up 21:39 Why proprietary data is the new moat 27:51 Mixing frontier models with open models 35:37 Bloomberg: Chinese hackers lean on DeepSeek because it's cheap 37:05 How much in-house expertise it takes to use AI well 42:56 Armadin's Palo Alto office and the Palantir playbook 1:02:54 AI and jobs: normal churn or something bigger? 1:07:19 What founders are actually saying in the group chats 1:08:49 Every meeting recorded, every meeting summarized 🎥 Watch the full episode here 👇