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가입 December 2010
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花了大半天把张小珺访谈姚顺宇的4小时长访听了一遍。这位去年刚从Anthropic跳到Google DeepMind的哥们,参与过Claude 3.7/4.5和Gemini 3。他给了很多实诚的头部大模型一线研究员的视角。访谈信息密度相当高。说几条我觉得最有意思的: 1. Google禁止员工用Claude Code,但姚顺宇保守估计自己90%代码是AI生成的。不保守估计99%甚至100%。一个清华加斯坦福的物理博士、顶级大模型研究员都靠AI写代码,再有人说自己不能用AI写代码,别特么给自己脸上贴金了。但反过来想,Google连内部都不让用CC和Codex,员工效率得受多大影响啊,这家公司真挺神奇的。 2. 他离开Anthropic的原因里,反对Dario反华占40%。他自己说这不是首要但确实是大原因。他很烦Dario那套「我们必须拥有最强模型才能推AI安全」的逻辑。圈里敢直接喷半年前老东家的人确实不多。 3. Claude 3.5/3.6/3.7的命名是个草台班子般的乌龙。Anthropic早期产品力极弱,「居然管两个模型叫一个名字」,外界为了区分自发叫3.6,Anthropic后来跟随社区习惯把下一个叫3.7。我之前一直以为3.6是个跳过的版本号。 4. Claude Code是「个人英雄主义的开端」。一个叫Boris的研究员自己想做提效工具,后来变成Anthropic最重要的产品之一。完全是bottom-up长出来的,不是规划出来的。 5. Anthropic创始团队一个人都没离开。来自OpenAI的那批核心是一起打过仗的,这才是top-down文化能跑通的根。对比OpenAI高管走光,姚顺宇似乎挺鄙视OpenAI的企业文化和部分高管。 6. OpenAI救了Google一命。逻辑挺反共识:如果ChatGPT一鼓作气把search吃了,Google就完了;正因为做出可能性又没做到极致,反而留了Google反击时间。 7. AI行业最重要的特质不是脑子,是靠谱。原话「那些东西多多脑子,本科生就能干」。一个物理博士说这话,算降维打击,也算给所有想转AI的人吃颗定心丸。 8. 他觉得程序员的未来是1/1000拿100倍工资。不是「程序员消失」,是「极度中心化」。绝大多数失去独特价值,少数顶级爆赚。 9. 他觉得现在很多人说的Scaling Law撞墙,多数是自己代码Bug。原话「修一个Bug带来的进展,远大于一些很神奇的技巧」。预训练在过去几个月还在变强,跟外界「预训练已死」的叙事完全相反。 10. 绝大多数New Lab都会死。 听完最大的感受是:这哥们说话真的没在留情面,又喷Anthropic又喷OpenAI又喷各种「老登」。但他敢喷的底气挺清楚,既不在SSI那条路上,也不靠LP吃饭。他自己原话说的是:「我这个行业又没什么导师又没什么旧友,我当然想喷谁喷谁。」 以及,他在说估计自己也不会在Google待太久,把这话在播客里说出来,我觉得国内头部大模型公司可以去抢一波人了。
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This episode features an interview with Yao Shunyu @ShunyuYao14 , Research Scientist at Google DeepMind. Yao has held research scientist roles at both Anthropic and Google DeepMind, contributing to the development of key models including Claude 3.7, 4.5, and Gemini 3. Yao Shunyu is not your typical nerd. Every now and then, he’ll catch you off guard with a flash of irreverence. “None of the old guard are your relatives — so if you think someone’s being dumb, they’re just being dumb. Say it. No big deal.” (laughs) “Everyone’s a surfer now, but what really matters is the wave — not the person riding it.” “AI doesn’t actually require that much brainpower — I mean it genuinely doesn’t — most of this is work any undergrad could do. The most important quality in this industry is reliability: being meticulous, and taking responsibility for what you put out.” “You don’t need to worry too much about ruffling feathers with your opinions. As long as your views are internally consistent — not just taking random shots at people, but grounded in your own genuine understanding — there are objective standards for how you’re doing in this field. People will respect you for it.” Let us have a little fun with this one! 😄​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​
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