跟 Serenity 学美股: $LITE 电话会 · CPO 时间线 + CW 激光
AI 数据中心里,光模块、激光芯片这几年一直很紧,这次 Serenity 写的是 Lumentum($LITE)财报电话会,重点讲了:CPO 什么时候放量、超高功率连续波激光(UHP CW)有多紧、西方玩家有没有定价权
一、时间线:CPO / ELS 都指向 2027 下半年
$LITE 公司说:CPO 规模化部署的时间看得更清楚了,对自家 超高功率激光芯片,仍看好 日历 2027 下半年 需求爬坡
Serenity 认为:H2 2027 CPO 规模化增长启动已由 Lumentum 针对其主要客户确认
另外,Lumentum 拿到了 首个 ELS(外置光源)模块采购单,交付目标也是 2027 下半年
ELS 可以粗理解成:给 CPO 一类方案「从外面供激光」的模块
她还提到:之前有过「延期」类报道,伤得很重,英伟达、Lumentum 等花了数周澄清。她把这类消息归成 市场噪音
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二、盘子还在变大:NPO + 1.6T
$LITE 公司说 NPO 对 Lumentum「完全是增量」,会明显抬高光学可寻址市场(TAM)
Serenity:激光卡点俱乐部的总盘子更大——不只 CPO 一条线
1.6T 光模块: $LITE 预计从 财年 Q1 起采用加速,并贯穿整个日历 2027
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三、供需:UHP 交货落后,CW 已经能提价
$LITE 管理层原话:高功率激光 交货远远落后;需求信号还在增强,相对供给能力 更落后
Serenity 概括:
• UHP CW 产能 极端失衡
• EML 侧需求错位也还在
• 出货量级粗看:大约从年底 +50M级,往 100M+(三位数季度) 爬,再接更大的 H2 2027–2028 放量
定价上, $LITE 说即使在 CW 上,也对「能提价」感到意外,溢价不错,并预期中国供应商上线后仍能维持
她认为这对 $SIVE 等西方 CW 激光玩家是 正面定价信号
中国侧: $LITE 提醒部分中国激光厂「今天市场上看不到交付」,大数字难核对;她认为中国在激光/产能上 比市场想的更落后,并和 $AAOI、 $LITE 口径互证
基板:因供需失衡,近三个月在抢更多基板,额外支持来自 $AXTI。Serenity认为:InP 基板也是瓶颈
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四、Serenity的结论
1. CPO scale-up 出货窗口:H2 2027(延期叙事她当噪音)
2. CW 需求爬坡也落在 2027 下半年
3. UHP CW 已经极紧,连 Lumentum 都感意外
4. UHP 高利润、CW 能提价
5. 中国在激光/产能上更落后
这次电话会是在 验证 西方 CW 玩家的时间线 + 需求/定价,主放量还没真正开始,CW 稀缺已经发生
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更多细节看 Serenity
@aleabitoreddit 原文🫡
(整理自 Serenity 观点与 Lumentum 公开电话会要点 · 梭哈.AI · 仅供学习,不构成投资建议)
$LITE earnings transcript TLDRs:
- "Our visibility into the timing of CPO scale-up deployments has also sharpened. We remain confident in a demand ramp for our ultra-high-power laser chips in the second half of calendar 2027"
H2 2027 start of CPO scale up ramp confirmed from Lumentum for their lead customer.
- "We were recently given our first external light source, or ELS, module purchase for delivery by the second half of calendar 2027"
ELS industry ramp timelines
- "The NPO opportunity is completely additive for us, significantly increasing the optical TAM."
More TAM for laser chokepoint club
- "we expect the 1.6T transceiver uptake to intensify starting in fiscal Q1 and sustain through calendar 2027."
- "Even in CW, we’ve been surprised at our ability to price up"
Positive pricing power for $SIVE and the other CW laser players.
- "As a result, we are able to command a nice price premium that we expect to sustain, as these Chinese if these Chinese guys come online.
I caution people also, I think people are some of these Chinese laser suppliers are not delivering in the market today, so they have there is no recourse when they throw out these big numbers. We have not seen anything like that to date in terms of their output."
Chinese players are more behind than markets expect, corroborated by $AAOI and $LITE.
- "We are way behind in our shipments, unfortunately, on high-powered lasers"
"The demand signal has increased, and we are very much further behind relative to our ability to supply."
Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity, continued demand imbalance for EML. Shipping roughly +$50M year end -> $100m+ ("triple digit quarter") into much larger H2 2027 and 2028 scale up demand,.
- "So what we are trying to do, I think, really in the last three months is secure even more substrate supply" (because of demand imbalance), "we found additional substrate help from $AXTI They are a great partner."
Hello InP substrate bottleneck.
TLDR:
- Lumentum CPO scale up H2 2027 shipments got confirmed, dismissed any "delay" news as market "noise". (one delay report caused so much damage, and it took Nvidia, Lumentum, and all these companies weeks to do damage control).
- CW lasers demand ramp second half of 2027
- Extreme demand imbalance for UHP CW laser capacity surprised Lumentum
- UHP lasers commands very high margins and is able to price up CW laser capacity.
- China further behind in the laser/capacity angle.
Basically just validated timelines + demand/pricing for Western CW laser players.
CW laser scarcity is already happening before the main volume ramp even begins...
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