We sat down with @IIICapital of @Strive to talk about where Bitcoin-backed finance goes from here. bitcoin:native & Amplified Bitcoin. Digital credit. $STRC. $SATA. Self-custody. Leverage. And what the first real stress test for this new asset class taught us. Joe has spent his career across Bitcoin mining, custody, research and treasury companies, so we went deep. Timestamps: 00:00 Preview 00:46 Introduction 01:12 Joe’s bitcoin:native origin story 03:38 Joe’s career in Bitcoin 05:34 The Bitcoin education problem 07:01 Turning Bitcoin volatility into financial products 08:25 Rethinking “not your keys, not your coins” 09:52 Bitcoin custody today 13:09 Bitcoin, ETFs & amplified Bitcoin 15:05 Why digital credit matters 15:31 $SATA returns to $100 17:21 What comes next for digital credit? 18:19 Why Bitcoin-backed credit could scale 19:44 Digital credit → digital money 21:05 The leverage problem 22:30 Lessons from the summer unwind 24:18 Why $STRC & $SATA are different 25:43 Joe’s Bitcoin outlook Full conversation. 👇