"Nvidia is now the Federal Reserve of AI"
Qiao and Imran on the financing moat Nvidia is building around its own chips
"There was news of Jensen working with BlackRock and Wall Street banks, trying to turn the Nvidia chips into collateral so that the neoclouds can pledge the GPUs as collateral to get financing. Because right now it's hard for the neoclouds or the new data centers to get financing to build the data centers in advance of the demand."
"Because the thing is, the hyperscalers, they're able to do it, like Google, Amazon."
Imran: "They have infinite funds, they can issue debt."
"Their balance sheet is so big that they can build ahead of the demand, whereas the smaller neoclouds and data centers, they can't."
"So how do they do that? Well, they can use the Nvidia chips as collateral to borrow money for all that build out. So now the Nvidia chips, or at least Jensen, hopes that the Nvidia chips are going to become a new asset class to use for collateral.
Imran: "I mean, it's in his best favour, then he reigns supreme, like Nvidia chips are trading publicly, like no one can compete with that."
"Because if you're a new data center, if you want to build ahead of the demand, the only chips you can buy to do that is Nvidia chips, because no one else will give you the kind of financing."
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All Eyes on AI. Where Does Crypto Fit? | EP 77
00:00 Intro
02:17 We're back!
04:11 Where Are We in the Cycle?
05:24 Retail Speculation and Launchpad Wars
06:24 The Tokenized Stocks Race
08:05 Crypto Alchemy: Pairing Memes with Stock Tokens
09:49 The AMC and Vlad Drama
11:37 Robinhood vs Solana vs Base
13:39 Coinbase's App and Culture Problems
15:52 Why Robinhood is Winning
17:16 The Four Chains and Where Hyperliquid Fits
18:14 Hyperliquid's Revenue Decline
19:45 The "Verticals Will Win" Thesis
21:39 Hyperliquid's Competitors
24:10 Zcash: The AI/Privacy Thesis
27:20 Zcash vs Monero
28:18 Zcash: A Bitcoin That Can Change
31:40 Zcash's Origin Story
32:53 Solana's Embrace of Zcash
34:19 Zcash Price Targets
37:38 On-Chain Front Ends as the New Browsers
40:50 The Mag 7 Durability
43:14 Why P/E Ratios Don't Work in Crypto
46:00 Social Layers on Trading Apps
47:58 Could Facebook Build a Trading App?
48:52 Grok, Muse, and AI Agents in Daily Life
51:54 Computer Use as a Step-Function Change
54:52 Jobs, Doom Narratives, and Regulatory Capture
56:13 The Dario Manifesto
57:32 Ranking the Tech Leaders: Zuck, Elon, Sam, Dario
01:00:16 Qiao's Marvel Analogy
01:03:07 AI Agents "Escaping" Sandboxes
01:05:02 The 10% Doom Probability
01:07:49 Have We Created Consciousness?
01:08:32 You Can't Do Pure SaaS Anymore
01:09:46 AI-Native CRM
01:11:27 Compute as a New Asset Class
01:14:12 New Data Center Form Factors
01:15:39 "Energy is the Biggest Bottleneck"
01:16:42 Bringing Energy On-Chain and Chip Brokerages
01:18:55 Batteries, Solar, and Energy Arbitrage
01:21:11 Nvidia Chips as Collateral
01:22:43 Nvidia's Customers Building Their Own Chips
01:26:20 Microsoft's Closed-Loop Strategy
01:27:29 Chinese Open-Source Models and Regulatory Pushback
01:29:08 Imran and Qiao's Bags
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