My conversation with @RickRubin 0:00 Less Is More But Harder 2:00 Def Jam From The Dorm Room 4:00 Capturing Club Energy On Record 6:00 Going Deep On Influences 12:30 Why Reduced By Rick Rubin 14:00 Beatles Structure Meets Rap 16:00 The Ruthless Edit 19:30 Eminem: The Most Obsessive Artist 22:00 Lazy Workaholic 25:30 Protecting The Moment Of Magic 29:00 Dana White And Becoming A Podcaster 32:30 Professional Listener 44:00 Fishing And Showing Up 47:00 Johnny Cash And Constraints 55:30 Church Business vs. Banking Business 58:50 Run On Intuition Alone 1:01:00 Jay-Z vs. Eminem Process 1:04:30 In Service Of The Artist 1:09:00 Work As Diary Entries 1:13:30 Four Ways Success Destroys You 1:16:00 How To Sustain Success 1:21:00 The House On The Mountain Includes paid partnerships.