prinz(@deredleritt3r):I find the most recent Chinese open-source models to be lacking in reasoning capabilities and generally sloppy for use cases that don't involve coding. In other words, distillation of coding abilities seems to be happening, and so is benchmaxxing, but overall these models are far, far away from the frontier. This could be due to compute scarcity in China, and/or maybe they haven't quite infiltrated the U.S. labs to the extent you think.

2026.06.19 23:55

I find the most recent Chinese open-source models to be lacking in reasoning capabilities and generally sloppy for use cases that don't involve coding. In other words, distillation of coding abilities seems to be happening, and so is benchmaxxing, but overall these models are far, far away from the frontier. This could be due to compute scarcity in China, and/or maybe they haven't quite infiltrated the U.S. labs to the extent you think.

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