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Howaboua
@Howaboua
Vibecoding End-boss ™. Chronically unemployed. Developing - the only Pi desktop app you want to use.
加入 August 2010
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3rd party personal assistants will soon all be F tier. Hear me out. I haven't yet used Dots. I haven't yet used Muse. I used Grokbot a bit. I've used Openclaw in gpt 5.4 era, was really meh. I've installed and uninstalled Hermes twice very quickly, I just did not jive with anything it was doing. I've clanked up my own persistent personal agent system that I am happy with, but I don't really have it in me to think too much about making it super fully fledged so it just runs Pi with some extras. With that out of the way, I think 3rd party assistants, like Hermes, OC or any other flavour of it (with ZERO preference for one over the other, this is not the point of this post), will soon all be F tier. Why? Think about it. Big companies will throw anything at their version to win the "bot wars", this includes both engineering power AND subsidies. I think this is obvious that unlimited tokens are very likely to win with an opensource project of any kind, as much as OSS has its advantages with "distributed engineering". Muse is apparently cheap as chips. Grok Bot has a separate quota from Grok Build and Cursor (at least for now). OAI are currently running Dots on a promo, although I'd say it's closer to early-access-beta-testing. Once they figure out how to subsidise these, we'll probably also see a separate quota or something. Third parties are left with people who: - are running models locally and want stuff super-private - are willing to just pay for cheap API - have some sort of a non-frontier subscription - are happy to spend their - to use this example, because it's already there - Grok sub quota on running a personal assistant they prefer over spending using the version of it that is drawing from a separate pot of quota allowance. - think that an always online, full internet access, personal assistant in a 3rd party harness is more private than something that runs on 1st party servers (here imma be judgemental - very naive of them) That leaves the 3rd party assistants in a very weird spot. Openclaw/Hermes had a head start. But Grok Bot has Poteto, etc etc. So they will soon all catch up and surpass the OGs and you'll have to be really hardcore to even consider still using something that's not 1st party. The gap will widen. Just rambling, but what I meant was: Dafuq you even posting these tier lists for? Just submit feedback/issue or write an actual review of each. OR MAYBE, OH GOSH, GET INVOLVED AND SUBMIT A PR WHERE YOU CAN?! No? Why? Cuz doing this doesn't farm engagement? I see.
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