I watched the complete ACP vs. DSA debate. The DSA little guys would not shut up for a reply, they were very smug —they had this liberal leftist ironic laugh going the whole time, all of them—, they would say things like "Alsayed is one step removed from us", meaning it was a victory for them (when the guy says he's a capitalist, and really is a democrat careerist), that they are winning, that was has the ACP done. Haz was very patient. He engaged in good faith. He spoke to them more as a father than as an equal, which I would say is accurate. Kept asking them questions, trying to lead him into his points. What is clear is the DSA is not planning for the future—their future is to keep riding the Democrats' train, keep enjoying the fruits of empire in an "ethical manner"—, they are too optimist about reformation, they also think they are the bolsheviks. You should see the debate for yourself.