.@NataliaZarina rode so hard for Claude Code we devoted an episode to how she was using it to automate her job running @every’s consulting practice. Fast forward to five months later, and she rides just as hard for Codex. I had her back on AI & I to talk about what caused her to make the switch, including how she ran a prompt in Codex before bed and woke up to a finished, custom CRM tool. We get into: - Why she finds Codex easier to use than Claude Code - How she’s using loops in Codex to create customized tools that work exactly how she needs them to - Why the consulting team still pays for SaaS products like Attio and Asana even though they could vibe code their own versions - How she built an app to manage her father’s medical care in Codex - How knowledge work is evolving from sculpting to gardening, in which you develop the context and logic you need for an agent to execute for you This is a must-watch for anyone trying to figure out whether to build their own tools or buy real software—and what it takes to get an AI agent to run unsupervised for hours and nail the output. Watch below! Timestamps 1. Introduction: 00:01:05 2. How Natalia manages Claudie, the consulting team’s AI project manager: 00:02:35 3. Why the consulting team still pays for SaaS products: 00:04:55 4. Codex as a game changer : 00:11:47 5. Building personalized learning guides and illustrated explainers with AI: 00:14:55 6. Inside Natalia's AI-powered email triage system: 00:21:40 7. The shift from knowledge work as sculpting to knowledge work as gardening: 00:26:44 8. Using Codex to on-shot a custom CRM: 00:28:57 9. Using Codex to build an app that coordinates her father’s medical care: 00:33:16