Elon Musk: The government is a big dumb machine. “It's mostly not corruption, it's mostly just waste and incompetence. It's just a big dumb machine, a whole series of big dumb machines. Some of the software was written 50 years ago. A bunch of the things that DOGE is fixing were identified by the Government Accountability Office many years ago. Like the fact that there's 20 million [dead] people who are marked as alive in the Social Security database. They're using the fact that someone is marked as alive in that database in order to extract fraud from other databases. It's like in pool, trying to get the ball in the hole, you bank shot it off a bunch of things.” The Joe Rogan Experience, February 28, 2025