Jukan与 Serenity 都长期看好存储,但资金已开始轮动
韩国分析师 Jukan
@jukan05 和 Serenity
@aleabitoreddit 长期看好内存储存板块,但两人明确指出:市场资金一直在不同瓶颈之间轮动,资金开始往下一个瓶颈转移
一、两位高手的整体看法
Jukan: 存储缺货提价最暴利的阶段已经过去,当前风险收益比很差。他选择逢高把存储股票全部清仓卖出,资金转向光模块/光子学和人形机器人。中长期仍是 memory bull,但短期偏空
Serenity: 仍然看好 memory(明确点名 $MU 和 Samsung)。市场本来就在“从瓶颈到瓶颈”轮动,这周重点又回到光子学。真正变化的是股价和叙事,基本面/瓶颈本身并没有恶化多少。当前价格下的 operating income 相对市值仍然非常夸张,尤其 memory 正在变成结构性瓶颈,明年需求失衡可能更严重
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二、对存储标的的看法
✦美光科技($MU)
Jukan:享受了 DRAM 和 HBM 涨价带来的业绩提振,但远期估值已经被市场炒得太高。这是他这轮存储轮动里最优先彻底清仓卖出的标的之一
Serenity:继续看好,一个月前市场还在庆祝它签了 16 个 SCA、给出超强指引,现在却看到大量零售盘在投降。基本面并没有变差
✦SK 海力士
Jukan:存储里技术最强,高度认可其在 HBM3e 和 HBM4E 上的绝对龙头地位,以及跟英伟达、台积电组建的“AI黄金三角”。但提醒中国长鑫存储在成熟和利基市场上扩张很快,会挤压其传统存储业务
✦闪迪 / 西部数据( $SNDK / WDC)
Jukan:主营 NAND 和 SSD,技术门槛不如 DRAM 和 HBM,周期波动性太大。之前属于轮动早期的弹性标的,到这个阶段属于最先清仓处理的对象
✦三星电子(Samsung)
Jukan:因为 HBM 验证落后,错过了这轮最暴利的时期。特别警惕杠杆资金,警告千万不要加 10 倍杠杆去赌三星翻盘
Serenity:继续看好。三星在 1.5 万亿美元市值和 9800 亿美元市值时,是同一家公司。变的只是估值和叙事
✦长鑫存储( $CXMT)
Jukan:在利基存储市场加速国产替代,成熟产品的低价竞争会给三大巨头带来压力
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三、对光子学(光模块)标的的看法(Serenity 重点补充)
Serenity 用光子学板块来对比说明“瓶颈没变、只是股价和叙事在变”:
✦Applied Optoelectronics( $AAOI) 七月大跌时很多人喊它是“骗局”(跌到 75 美元),现在又重新看多(涨回 140 美元附近)。但公司基本面没有变化, $AAOI 在 140 和 75 是同一家公司。之前从财报就知道它存在明显的需求失衡
✦AXT Inc( $AXTI) 同样在七月被喊“骗局”(跌到 35 美元),现在又有人重新看多(涨回 80 美元附近)。InP 基板瓶颈并没有缓解,甚至可能更严重
✦Lumentum( $LITE)与 Coherent( $COHR) 七月下跌期间就已知,这两家的激光器已经完全售罄到未来两年。基本面在下跌时并没有恶化
Serenity 认为:光子学这边的 transceiver / InP 基板瓶颈没有改变,甚至可能因美国拟限制中国光模块、需求进一步放大而加剧。市场只是从存储轮到了光子学
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总结: 两人都认可存储长期逻辑没变,但都看到了资金正在从存储往光子学轮动
Jukan 已经彻底调仓离场;Serenity 更强调基本面没坏、当前估值仍有吸引力,愿意继续持有 memory,并指出光子学板块同样存在“叙事随股价剧烈摇摆、但瓶颈未变”的现象
感谢两位提供的独特观点,仅供学习交流,请DYOR
Yes, I'm still bullish on memory like $MU / Samsung.
As I said earlier, markets tend to rotate from bottleneck to bottleneck.
This week it looks $AXTI to $LITE in the photonics sector is the focus again.
The thing is... the primary thing that changed are the stock prices, followed by some narratives + updates sprinkled in here and there.
For photonics:
> We already knew $COHR / $LITE lasers were completely sold out for the next 2 years during July's drop.
> We knew about demand imbalance from $AAOI from last quarter's earnings calls.
Nothing deteriorated fundamentally during July's crash, other than listed price after liquidations.
Yet tons of people called $AAOI a "scam" when it dropped to $75, or $AXTI a "scam" on its drop to $35...
But are bullish again at $140 or $80, when the transciver/InP substrate bottleneck hasn't changed at all, but maybe even got worse... (eg. draft for US ban on new china optical transceivers, scale up demand projections)
For Memory:
I'm witnessing a lot of retail capitulation, but the same people I'm seeing were mega bullish after $MU signed 16 SCAs and gave exceptional projections a month ago.
Or were celebrating Samsung having the highest operating profit in the world.
There's updates here and there eg. Rubin Ultra with memory optimizations (which Nvidia strives for every generation), with prices no longer being hiked way above expectations to the extreme.
But the operating income relative to MC is just absurd around current prices, especially memory becomes structural.
And the demand imbalance should be even worse next year.
People tend to capitulate and follow narratives when a sector drops (eg. Helium/LNG back in Iran war), even if the bottleneck or fundamental situation hasn't really changed much (eg. $SPCX Elon earnings call reiterating memory tightness).
I can't tell others what to to do:
But $AAOI at $140 and $AAOI at $75 are the same company.
Samsung at a $1.5T MC and Samsung at a $980B MC are the same company.
Just valuations and narratives (often noise) change, and markets rotate from sector to sector.
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