NEW EPISODE - How @HyperliquidX Becomes the Backend for ALL of Finance @multicoin cofounder @tushar_jain joins @TrustlessState to unpack why @HyperliquidX may be much bigger than a fast-growing perp DEX. Portfolio margining, HIP3 markets, builder codes, real vs farmed volume, hyperliquid:native value capture, unlock risk, and the path to US access. The big idea: every market, one DeFi backend. TIMESTAMPS --- 0:00 Intro 1:50 Perps Get TradFi’s Attention 3:17 More Than a Perp DEX 6:29 Why Portfolio Margining Matters 11:13 HIP3 and Permissionless Market Creation 13:47 Hyperliquid Becomes a Platform 19:54 The On-Ramp Question 21:36 Perps Are Not the Whole Thesis 28:04 Cash Flow as the Credibility Signal 33:05 Valuation Multiples and Lighter 34:36 Multicoin’s HYPE Framework 42:05 Token Value Capture 43:34 Unlocks, Wealth, and Team Motivation 48:30 The US Perps Question 52:27 Does Hyperliquid Need to Come Onshore? 54:32 The Final Bull Case --- RESOURCES Multicoin's Hype Analysis and Valuation report can be found here: The report includes important disclosures concerning the data and assumptions by Multicoin discussed today. Multicoin may have interests in companies mentioned during the episode.