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Steve Jurvetson
@FutureJurvetson
Co-founder of Future Ventures and DFJ, supporting passionate founders to forge a better future. Early VC investor in Tesla, SpaceX, Planet, Commonwealth Fusion.
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🌊Good update on the critical metals resting on the deep seabed TLDR; “Who extracts these minerals will determine more about the next century than most of the decisions being made in Washington… The floor of the Pacific is the last great untapped resource extraction prize on Earth.” Excerpts: “The target for this mining is a 104.5 million acre stretch of seabed between Mexico and Hawaii known as the Clarion-Clipperton Zone (CCZ), where US Geological Survey estimates suggest deposits contain more nickel, cobalt, and manganese than all known worldwide land-based reserves combined. The full CCZ is estimated to contain up to 30 billion metric tons of nodules — a deposit, at current valuations, worth up to $18.4 trillion. Critical minerals demand is accelerating beyond what the existing supply system was designed to handle. By 2035, EVs could account for as much as 70% of global new car sales. The critical minerals supply system has no plausible path to keeping pace. In the US alone there are 570 gigawatts of battery storage projects waiting to be added to the grid. The International Energy Agency (IEA) has projected that demand for battery metals could grow by a factor of 30x by 2040 from 2024 levels. Battery storage costs will fall another 35–55% by 2035. At that level, the economic case for new gas-fired power plants collapses because storage can undercut gas on price while performing the same grid-balancing function. But this plummeting cost curve assumes a steady flow of raw materials, an assumption that currently rests on shaky ground. The biggest risk to this energy transition is a lack of mines. The IEA estimates the world needs 80 new copper mines, 70 new lithium mines, and 70 new nickel mines to meet projected demand. Historically new copper mines take 15-20 years or longer to come online. Closing this gap through conventional mining alone is functionally impossible. The structural supply shortage of the materials we need to electrify our economies will redraw the map of global power. Instead of Saudi Arabia and other petrostates holding the world politically hostage, power could shift to what we might call electrostates that possess or control the critical minerals needed for electrification. The largest electrostate is China. Chinese companies control significant shares of global cobalt and manganese extraction in Africa and elsewhere and have locked up supply through overseas mining investments as part of a deliberate industrial strategy. China is the dominant refiner for 19 of the 20 minerals analyzed in the IEA’s Global Critical Minerals Outlook 2025. The country manufactures more than 80% of the world’s finished batteries and controls over 98% of lithium iron phosphate battery cell production. What [Metals Company CEO] Barron was offering President Trump, in his own words, was “an amazing way of catching up from what is a very distant second place to China when it comes to critical minerals.” Four days after that Oval Office meeting, Trump signed an executive order directing the US government to expedite seabed mining licenses in international waters... Any environmental concerns must be balanced with the reality that open-pit mining is more ecologically destructive than the methods proposed by Western deep-sea mining companies; open-pit mining projects are mostly located in countries with weaker environmental protections than the international frameworks governing the CCZ. The relevant comparison here is between different forms of mineral extraction, because extraction is necessary and environmental costs can only be mitigated, not eliminated. The Metals Company’s PATANIA III collector vehicle uses hydraulic suction to skim nodules from the seafloor rather than the bulldozing motion of earlier prototypes, reducing sediment disturbance by roughly 90%. ‘Copper is the new oil,’ according to Robert Friedland, a legendary mining industry figure and one of the first investors in Apple. Copper is why the economics of deep-sea mining are becoming newly compelling. Copper has no real substitute. It’s also embedded in virtually every system that carries an electrical current. China reversed course on deep-sea mining, a position it had resisted for decades. Beijing’s calculation had changed because land-based mineral strategies in Africa were proving expensive, politically unstable, and increasingly exposed. China now holds more deep-sea exploration licenses than any other country and has built a large fleet of research and survey vessels operating across the Pacific and Indian Oceans. The appeal of deep-sea mining to China, which prizes self-sufficiency above all else, is apparent. The ocean asks nothing of you. Unlike developing nations, the ocean won’t attempt to nationalize your assets or default on a loan or hold elections with unpredictable consequences for your investments. In the March 2026 issue of Qiushi, the Chinese Communist Party’s top theoretical journal, an editorial declared 'The 21st century is the century of the ocean; whoever wins the ocean wins the future. China is one of the earliest nations in the world to develop and utilize the ocean ... We must deeply implement Xi Jinping’s vision to build a maritime power.' If the Chinese pursue deep-sea mining as part of an integrated strategy to control the world’s oceans, the US must treat it as a mandatory theatre of competition. The Trump administration is pushing forward. NOAA and the Bureau of Ocean Management are accelerating permitting. In late March, the US and Japan signed a memorandum of cooperation to jointly advance deep-sea mining. Who extracts these minerals, and under what legal framework, will determine more about the next century than most of the decisions being made in Washington right now. A CCZ developed under American legal frameworks produces a different world than one developed under Chinese state direction, with output flowing into Chinese refineries, Chinese battery factories, and Chinese defense supply chains. The floor of the Pacific is the last great untapped resource extraction prize on Earth.” — From: $TMC
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“The future is not something to be predicted. It’s something to be built.” — @FutureJurvetson Long before reusable rockets transformed spaceflight, Steve Jurvetson was one of SpaceX’s earliest major investors. His office is packed with meteorites, artifacts, and prototypes, a reminder that every breakthrough begins as an idea most people dismiss.
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Mission: Expanding the Scope and Scale of Consciousness. From my 📸 of the billboard on Times Square “This is, depending on how you read it, either the most ridiculous thing a serious company has ever put on its mission page or the most honest. We think it’s the latter.” —@a16z
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…swirling in the emotional aftertaste of a shared experience…. I’m still on cloud Falcon 9
And thank you to the Morgan Stanley trading crew in “Mission Control” sculpting the debut of $SPCX today. Here is the moment of first trade. P.S. Elon finally agreed to the IPO greenshoe options… but only if the bankers all wore green shoes. 👟 —> Mementos for all.
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And thank you to the Morgan Stanley trading crew in “Mission Control” sculpting the debut of $SPCX today. Here is the moment of first trade. P.S. Elon finally agreed to the IPO greenshoe options… but only if the bankers all wore green shoes. 👟 —> Mementos for all.
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Elon Musk’s mom wishing him the best from the Morgan Stanley trading floor just before the opening trade. A magic moment today.
G-Shot gave the opening speech for the opening bell… anticipating the largest securities offering in history later today. $SPCX To celebrate this historic moment, I gave her the gift of mars…. Her first Mars rock which came to Earth as a meteorite.
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G-Shot gave the opening speech for the opening bell… anticipating the largest securities offering in history later today. $SPCX To celebrate this historic moment, I gave her the gift of mars…. Her first Mars rock which came to Earth as a meteorite.
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The Best of TED 2026 IMHO Community Notes is one of X's greatest advances, a breakthrough in social engineering with a distributed, scalable truth-seeking algorithm. My photo from the front row here (showing a peek into what's to come), and full video:
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My interview from TED with @kcoleman and @audreyt just went live! Tons of gold in here: -why we stuck with crazy principles like not having an override button -how AI and humans collaborate to write better/more notes than either on their own -how much impact community notes are making -why our algorithm is smarter than regular upvoting/downvoting -new ideas for finding common ground on social media
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🪱 Bringing Copper Home — Red Metals’ debut today TLDR; Copper is the workhorse of electrifying everything. We need to refine more copper in the next 25 years than in all of human history. FastCompany: “The world faces a looming copper shortage: By 2040, demand could grow by 50%, driven by everything from electric cars to the surge in data centers. At the same time, supply is expected to drop, leaving a shortfall of 10 million metric tons, according to an S&P analysis. Already, supply shortages have pushed copper prices to record highs this year. In Charleston, South Carolina, a startup called Red Metals is racing to build more American supply through urban mining—pulling copper from old products and scrap rather than extracting the metal from increasingly depleted copper mines. Right now, only around half of the copper in existing products is recovered at their end of life. In the U.S., the scrap that’s recycled is often sent overseas for refining before being sent back. At the same time, demand is growing throughout the global economy. Transportation is electrifying. Households are electrifying. The number of air conditioners keeps growing as the planet gets hotter. All require copper. And data centers are a massive source of new demand: A single hyperscale data center can use, by one estimate, 50,000 tons of copper in cooling systems and power equipment. …humanoid robots could also be a major new source of demand. At its $70 million facility under construction in South Carolina, Red Metals will use AI to sort copper from discarded products, from motors to Christmas lights, and turn it into copper rod that customers can use to make products like wire. The process skips several intermediate steps that usually come between recovered copper and rod, including concentrate, matte, anode, and cathode, helping make recycled American copper cost-competitive. Switzer compares the process to Nucor, a steel manufacturer that changed how scrap steel could be made directly into new sheets of metal. “They did it at a much smaller scale, and all the major steel producers like U.S. Steel dismissed them, [thinking that] because they’re out there at a small scale there’s no way they can compete,” he says. “Fast forward to now; Nucor is the largest steel producer in the United States and other legacy steel producers have gone bust.” — from For America, copper is a critical input for many of the nation’s most important industries and technologies, including electrical infrastructure, batteries, data centers, defense systems, and advanced manufacturing. U.S. copper demand is projected to increase by more than one million metric tons annually through 2035, contributing to a domestic market expected to exceed $45 billion. At the same time, American copper production capacity has steadily declined, and the U.S. is projected to face a refined copper supply gap of more than 2.5 million metric tons of refined copper annually by 2035, even if every major announced mining project comes online. We export 950K tons of copper scrap each year, one of the world's largest exporters, with over 40% going to China. If refined and recycled domestically, that scrap would meaningfully reduce our reliance on imported copper and strengthen the resilience of the domestic supply chain. Recycling starts with a 60x better feedstock than mining ore, which is 99% rock. And copper can be recycled repeatedly without losing its properties. Let’s make it so. Now hiring: FD: Future Ventures is a seed investor in this fast company.
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🚀 60 years ago today, Gemini IX-A launched Cernan and Stafford for a three-day mission riddled with mishaps. Cernan performed America’s 2nd EVA which he called “the spacewalk from hell” as he became the first person to orbit Earth entirely outside a spacecraft. From Gemini Remastered: “Before launch, Deke Slayton, who now ran flight crew operations, entered the room where Stafford was suiting up and asked the suit technician to leave and closed the door. He expressed NASA’s concerns about the EVA and added “In case Cernan dies out there, you’ve got to bring him back, because we just can’t afford to have a dead astronaut floating around in space.” Stafford set out his concerns about how difficult that would be and ultimately, he was Commander and he’d make the call. After suiting up, Cernan quizzed Stafford: “Deke was in there talking to you quite a while. What did he say?” Stafford replied: “He just said he hoped we’d have a good flight.” Launch day came May 17, but the rendezvous-target Agena took a nosedive into the ocean for its launch. NASA switched to a backup ATDA target vehicle (which failed to deploy properly in orbit, leaving it useless, looking like an “angry alligator”). The Gemini IX crew faced multiple launch scrubs over 17 days, with six separate entries into the spacecraft for launch. Cernan was to test a new AMU backpack with hydrogen peroxide thrusters. 80 Velcro patches were bonded to the exterior of the spacecraft and his gloves to assist in crawling to the AMU, where he was to do an untethered free-floating spacewalk — a bold mission plan that did not succeed until McCandless did it in 1984. Cernan’s suit was made extra fire retardant to resist burn through by the AMU thrusters. But this made it very rigid and difficult to move in space (like a “rusty suit of armor”). Every movement required immense exertion, which caused him to sweat profusely, overwhelming his suit's environmental control system and causing his helmet faceplate to completely fog up. He had to use his nose to wipe a small visibility window in his faceplate as he fumbled from a lack of handholds. His intense thrashing ripped through seven inner layers of heavy thermal insulation on the back of his suit, leaving a triangle of skin unprotected. When the spacecraft rotated into the daytime side of its orbit, the exterior of the suit was hit by raw, unfiltered sunlight at a blistering 250°F. Without the insulation, the searing solar heat baked right through the remaining pressure bladder layer. Cernan recalled feeling a scalding, fiery sensation on his lower back but had to ignore it because he was already fighting for his life while blind from the fogged visor. His heart rate hit 180bpm and the flight surgeon was concerned he could lose consciousness. He also lost communications fidelity, resorting to a binary code: one squawk for yes, two for no. Cmdr. Stafford decided to cancel the AMU jetpack test. Cernan called out to CAPCOM Neil Armstrong in mission control: “You might tell everyone down there I’m sure sorry about this.” Because the pressurized suit had ballooned in size with outstretched limbs larger than the hatch opening, and with Cernan completely exhausted and blind, getting back inside the spacecraft was a brutal physical struggle for both men. Together, they used the mechanical hatch-cranking mechanism to literally compress Cernan’s stiff suit and force the door closed against his helmet causing him to almost black out from an inability to breathe. Overall, Cernan lost 13 lbs. from extreme dehydration. Despite the setbacks, NASA learned valuable lessons about spacesuit design and the need for visible handholds for EVAs (which was corrected for Apollo). Here are some heroic artifacts from the Future Ventures museum: 1) The newest addition to the collection, Cernan’s Constellation Chart and Greek Alphabet Cue Card, as annotated and flown on Gemini IX-A. On the upper border, Cernan refers to the planned rendezvous with the ATDA. The accompanying Gemini 9 constellation chart showed key navigation stars labeled with their Greek letter designations (like α Lyrae, β Orionis). Since astronauts weren’t trained astronomers, they carried a Greek letter cheat sheet to quickly decode those symbols into star names and locations. They would use the legend to match ‘α’ to the brightest star in a constellation, ‘β’ to the next, and so on, letting them correctly identify stars through the spacecraft’s sextant/telescope for celestial navigation. 2) Original left-handed glove from the Gemini G3C space suit made by the David Clark Company. 3) ITT Interphones used by the frogmen during recovery at sea; it was a pluggable hard line (like in the Matrix) used throughout Gemini after splashdown. The frogmen welcome the astronauts home and let them know when it was safe to open the hatch. For Apollo, NASA switched to Motorola radios. 4) Photo of the frogmen welcoming a weary Cernan and Stafford back to Earth, with orange interphones clearly visible.
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The end of an era. Tesla Model S signature edition gets delivered by Elon Musk to @FutureJurvetson
Feared lost since my teen years, we just found all of my pewter D&D figurines in my Mom's closet. I painted them all by hand.
ADD or AD&D — Advanced Dungeons & Dragons I still have it all. My mom saved countless pages of dungeon layouts I did as child, these from when I was 14. And I painted the pewter D&D figurines in even more detail. As the Dungeon Master, you create worlds to explore in a game that never ends. In this case, the rings are floors of a tower, with a dungeon below. There are "pieces" of some grand puzzle to be found, some behind secret doors or guarded by monsters. There were various magical weapons to discover and puzzles to solve. This was one of 15 pages in this particular campaign. In the end, I generated them well in excess of my ability to play them with friends. Alas, I was an only child.
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W͢h͢a͢t͢ ͢i͢f͢ ͢A͢I͢ ͢c͢o͢u͢l͢d͢ ͢d͢i͢s͢a͢b͢u͢s͢e͢ ͢u͢s͢ ͢o͢f͢ ͢f͢a͢l͢s͢e͢ ͢b͢e͢l͢i͢e͢f͢s͢?͢ This would be a superhuman accomplishment, IMHO, sorely needed by humanity. Humans seem to do a poor job of dissuading others of irrational beliefs. When confronted with moon-landing-deniers, astrologists, telepathy tapes, or any unfounded beliefs, I have failed 100% of the time to change anyone’s beliefs using reason and evidence… and even cash prizes: But now we have three peer-reviewed studies showing that AI conversations can do just that. WSJ summarizes: “Researchers found that when large language models are instructed to debunk conspiracy theories, they often successfully change people’s minds. In one study, participants discussed conspiracy theories they believed, and the researchers asked AI to persuade the participants that those theories weren’t true. Most participants not only changed their mind immediately after the conversation but also continued to hold those new views two months later. Another study found the models—which the researchers dubbed Debunkbots—helped participants rethink antisemitic conspiracy theories and see Jewish people more favorably. A third study suggests Debunkbots’ success at challenging conspiracy theories is driven by their ability to clearly explain relevant facts.” — The studies claim that the AI is successful because it presents evidence to refute a false belief. But I think that misses a much more important and subtle AI advantage — the evidence is not dismissed out of hand as fake news. We have had compelling evidence for the moon landings for many years now, but humans have not been able to persuade other humans to internalize the evidence, and the percent of the population denying the moon landings has grown every year since we first walked on the moon. I have witnessed an instinctual distrust and dismissal of the messenger when humans confront unfounded beliefs. It’s hard not to sound condescending when questioning a whack-a-do (see, there, I did it again), and defensive reactions easily ensue. The AI does not fall into the same trap of having a perceived agenda or condescending tone. They actually tested that, and Debunkbot is less effective when it takes a condescending vs. an affirming or neutral tone. We humans naturally model other minds in a dialog or debate, and can easily ascribe ulterior motives to the other, reinforcing the mental menagerie of a grand conspiracy. An AI hits different. We don’t yet see it having such ulterior motives, or motives of any kind. And we might be less defensive and more vulnerable with an AI, as we see in the efficacy of AI therapy. As a false belief begins to unravel, we might be more willing to explore that and allow a crack in our conviction without fear of embarrassment in front of others. The AI is not yet an other. And this gives me new hope for the future of humanity. Rather than backsliding into the retrograde irrationality of personal truth and unfounded beliefs, perhaps @xAI’s pursuit of truth might finally reorient humanity itself to its loftier mission. P.S. you can give it a spin at I append a screen shot of what it said when I used the common arguments 1) if we landed, why have we not been back in over 50 years and 2) why don’t we see any stars in the black sky in the lunar surface photos? And below that is my prior post lamenting my inability to persuade deniers that they are wrong.
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Why do 1/4 of us think the moon landings were fake? Worrisome on its own, it is part of a much larger phenomenon in false beliefs and mind viruses. Among young people in the U.S. and UK, the percent that think Apollo was faked has climbed steadily from 4% back when we were actually doing it to 25% today! (source: Ad Astra, 2019) My prior post, showing the first Apollo 8 Earthrise, prompted hundreds of people to ask: “where are the stars?” and some to add the assertion that their absence proves the photo to be fake, one of the common arguments given for why the moon landing was faked. Such an odd chain of thinking. The sheer number of such comments was shocking and disappointing to me. I feel like a Public Service Announcement is in order. The starless black has an easy explanation, of course, for anyone who knows a bit about photography: no camera has the dynamic range to simultaneously capture a bright foreground object like the moon and the relatively dim background stars. You can overlay multiple digital photos, like an HDR merge, but none of that existed with the film cameras of the 60’s. Some people pointed out that you can verify this for yourself by taking a photo looking up to a streetlight at night. Or shoot a full moon in the night sky. If you can see any moon details, you won’t see any stars. The exposure setting can get one or the other but not both in a single shot. Do you think any of the lunar lander deniers will go outside and try this simple experiment? I doubt any will (but maybe some just asked the question out of curiosity, and they will hopefully go get the answer for themselves). Please, do look up! Will any evidence change a denier's mind? I used to hope so. I once got into a long multi-day argument with someone who seemed to be making evidence-based claims that the rover rides were faked. I focused on why? Why go to all that effort? In the end, when backed into various logical corners, he stuck with the odd proposition that we wanted the Russians to know that our batteries were better than anyone’s, and thus, our terrestrial torpedoes had longer range. For some reason, we left it for them to deduce, like this wise conspiracy theorist had done, rather than just demonstrate it on Earth. Getting into the mind of a denier is an exercise in frustration. 400,000 people worked on Apollo. To assert they all lied, and none gave an anonymous tip to the press, requires extraordinary evidence. Why land on the moon 6 times when once would suffice? Why not fake a Mars landing instead? Why would Russia, India and China separately go to the moon and verify that our landers are there? Why would our enemy in the space race agree that we did it? The mental contortions one witnesses if you actually try to have a conversation with a denier is decoupled from logic, reason or common sense. I used to think belief without evidence was reserved for religion. Imagine a world where everything is personal truth. Learning would cease. Back to the dark ages. 20 years ago, I wrote a blogger post on Spooks and Goblins asking: “Do you think that the generation of myths and folkloric false beliefs has declined over time? In addition to the popularization of the scientific method, I wonder if photography lessened the promulgation of tall tales. Before photography, if someone told you a story about ghosts in the haunted house or the beast on the hill, you could choose to believe them or check for yourself. There was no way to say, ‘show me a picture of that Yeti or Loch Ness Monster, and then I’ll believe you.’ And, if so, will we regress as we have developed the ability to modify and fabricate photos and video?” Well, here we are. Fabricating photos like the one for this post are easy. (As an aside, I tried 16 times to get Grok to render stars in the black sky on the moon, but it couldn’t overcome some embedded low-level knowledge about realistic exposures. Faking it is still hard. :) In 2004, I co-taught a class with Larry Lessig at Stanford, and one of our texts by Posner shared the following statistics on American adults: • 33% believe in ghosts and communication with the dead. • 39% believe astrology is scientific (astrology, not astronomy). • 49% don’t know that it takes a year for the earth to revolve around the sun. • 67% don't know what a molecule is. People’s willingness to believe untruths relates to the ability of the average person to reason critically about reality. Posner concludes: “It is possible that science is valued by most Americans as another form of magic.” If “critical thinking” comes naturally from the scientific method, "magical thinking" flourishes in counterpoint. And those would be the dark ages. For most of human history, there was little to no progress. Almost no progress in a human lifetime. That was before the scientific method, a fundamentally better way for a culture to learn. But the moon landing denial is a much more difficult topic than merely noticing rampant ignorance and the failings of our education systems. Five years ago, the lunar rover argument on Facebook sparked some philosophical reflections that really got me thinking, and I'll share that here (it is public there too): @PaulJeffries (a very smart person IMHO): “These views aren’t just ignorance (in the literal sense of not having knowledge), so they can’t be addressed by simply informing people of the truth. The issues run much deeper. It’s a matter of epistemology, and a mindset where the priorities are about personal needs, more than knowledge which is inherently abstracted or depersonalized. The virtues of the scientific enlightenment, materialist mindset that is at issue are seen as unappealing by the people who reject “science”. They aren’t rubes who would believe science if only they heard the right claims; they’ve heard them. They fancy themselves as insightful resistors who seek a deeper truth. If people feel disenfranchised, marginalized, hopeless, and feel that authority is suspect because it’s always been an instrument of oppression, they’re going to look for hidden truths (such as astrology) and ways to upset stagnation (such as political contrarianism). At the very least they’ll be disinterested in things that don’t seem to pertain to their own lives or questions or suffering or striving. Similarly, they know that Trump “lies”; they think it’s epistemological jazz and his statements are code speak for a deeper truth. They are operational statements, not propositional ones. They won’t stop supporting Trump because you show them some “fact”, and they won’t stop trying to resist authoritarian oppression by ideology (as they see it) because you try to erase the sense that the world has meaning and purpose (as they seek it) by declaring scientific materialism and evolution. Ironically (for those who are in the tech community and baffled by the statistics cited in the post), there’s a deep connection between American entrepreneurialism and resistance to received knowledge of science or historical fact or whatnot). We’re a frontier culture of pragmatists. We reject authority in our church history. We reject theory, just as we reject fancy theology. We rejected a distant king. We rejected book learning and notions of European social class pretenses (except as it suited our attempts at justification of chattel slavery). It’s no accident that California in particular is the heart of innovation, where “weird” ideas that are very much not scientific materialism or received Judeo-Christian mainstream theology and metaphysics — weird spirituality —and weird art, weird communal living, weird hippy culture, on the physical frontier edge of a continent, all mix with the practical build it from nothing spirit of people who came looking for gold. No one can replicate Silicon Valley if they can’t capture the same admixture of irrationality, counterculture, anti-authoritarian experimentalism, pragmatism, commerce, autonomy, and sense that the world is to be synthesized at will, spun from whole cloth rather than an existing thing to be fought over and subdivided. I’m not saying that ignorance is an essential currency of innovation. But those among us, and here I am speaking for example of myself, who embrace science and education and knowledge and also embrace skepticism about authority and entrepreneurship, should realize that the qualities we leverage and instantiate have similar roots to those we think are obstacles in a very different population. We are closer than it seems. People who feel left behind, including by all the things we do in the tech frontier, will retreat to conservatism and skepticism and seek enlightenment in acts of revelation that feel authentic to them and are personally available and not reliant on distant authority. If we want to find common ground or even one day common mission, it won’t just be a matter of a slight improvement in public schools or making sure everyone somehow “hears the word” of science. Me: Fascinating. And worrisome, as this sounds like a self-amplifying bifurcation, creating a growing chasm of communication... to the point of mutual incoherence. Pulled from proscriptive moorings, both sides can fall prey to modern prophets and revealed truth (one a contrarian superhero within, the other a belief in a protocol — an externalized process for accumulating progress). Where is Karl Popper when we need him? Paul Jeffries: “Yeah, I think you might be right. As I suggested, their ultimate roots are common. But there’s a self-feeding wedge of mutual incomprehension, contempt, and identity oriented around not being the other. As with politics in America too. I should say I glossed over a complexity. There is a species of fanciful, humanistic, ambitious anti-science among the “costal elites” that is different than what you see among, for example, fundamentalist evangelicals. The former is folks who are denizens of tech (they might even be into crypto today; back in the day they were early BBS types, for instance) but into alternative medicine, vapor trails, vaccine skepticism, 9/11 conspiracies, remembered past lives, quantum mysticism, but also transhumanism and life extension and meditation and environmentalism and veganism and whatnot. They’re an admixture of perspectives and would grant the premise of common ground for debate and aren’t necessarily a part of a bifurcation wedge relative to adherents to received knowledge. Those folks don’t think outside of mainstream received knowledge in the same way and for the same reasons as, say, creationist evangelicals. Although there are overlaps on things such as skepticism of the state and big business that play out as common ground on things like anti-vax. The blue state / red state divide is self-amplifying. The divides inside blue, which can include both mysticism and hyper pseudo-rationality, are perhaps more within a shared dialectic. On another day it would be fun to explore whether one-way mass communications, and then the web, and then social media, amplified or diminished such differences, or just shed light on differences that were always there.”
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Best of BottleRock — BUSH He is so kind. This was my first music festival, and Gavin made it special.
Why do 1/4 of us think the moon landings were fake? Worrisome on its own, it is part of a much larger phenomenon in false beliefs and mind viruses. Among young people in the U.S. and UK, the percent that think Apollo was faked has climbed steadily from 4% back when we were actually doing it to 25% today! (source: Ad Astra, 2019) My prior post, showing the first Apollo 8 Earthrise, prompted hundreds of people to ask: “where are the stars?” and some to add the assertion that their absence proves the photo to be fake, one of the common arguments given for why the moon landing was faked. Such an odd chain of thinking. The sheer number of such comments was shocking and disappointing to me. I feel like a Public Service Announcement is in order. The starless black has an easy explanation, of course, for anyone who knows a bit about photography: no camera has the dynamic range to simultaneously capture a bright foreground object like the moon and the relatively dim background stars. You can overlay multiple digital photos, like an HDR merge, but none of that existed with the film cameras of the 60’s. Some people pointed out that you can verify this for yourself by taking a photo looking up to a streetlight at night. Or shoot a full moon in the night sky. If you can see any moon details, you won’t see any stars. The exposure setting can get one or the other but not both in a single shot. Do you think any of the lunar lander deniers will go outside and try this simple experiment? I doubt any will (but maybe some just asked the question out of curiosity, and they will hopefully go get the answer for themselves). Please, do look up! Will any evidence change a denier's mind? I used to hope so. I once got into a long multi-day argument with someone who seemed to be making evidence-based claims that the rover rides were faked. I focused on why? Why go to all that effort? In the end, when backed into various logical corners, he stuck with the odd proposition that we wanted the Russians to know that our batteries were better than anyone’s, and thus, our terrestrial torpedoes had longer range. For some reason, we left it for them to deduce, like this wise conspiracy theorist had done, rather than just demonstrate it on Earth. Getting into the mind of a denier is an exercise in frustration. 400,000 people worked on Apollo. To assert they all lied, and none gave an anonymous tip to the press, requires extraordinary evidence. Why land on the moon 6 times when once would suffice? Why not fake a Mars landing instead? Why would Russia, India and China separately go to the moon and verify that our landers are there? Why would our enemy in the space race agree that we did it? The mental contortions one witnesses if you actually try to have a conversation with a denier is decoupled from logic, reason or common sense. I used to think belief without evidence was reserved for religion. Imagine a world where everything is personal truth. Learning would cease. Back to the dark ages. 20 years ago, I wrote a blogger post on Spooks and Goblins asking: “Do you think that the generation of myths and folkloric false beliefs has declined over time? In addition to the popularization of the scientific method, I wonder if photography lessened the promulgation of tall tales. Before photography, if someone told you a story about ghosts in the haunted house or the beast on the hill, you could choose to believe them or check for yourself. There was no way to say, ‘show me a picture of that Yeti or Loch Ness Monster, and then I’ll believe you.’ And, if so, will we regress as we have developed the ability to modify and fabricate photos and video?” Well, here we are. Fabricating photos like the one for this post are easy. (As an aside, I tried 16 times to get Grok to render stars in the black sky on the moon, but it couldn’t overcome some embedded low-level knowledge about realistic exposures. Faking it is still hard. :) In 2004, I co-taught a class with Larry Lessig at Stanford, and one of our texts by Posner shared the following statistics on American adults: • 33% believe in ghosts and communication with the dead. • 39% believe astrology is scientific (astrology, not astronomy). • 49% don’t know that it takes a year for the earth to revolve around the sun. • 67% don't know what a molecule is. People’s willingness to believe untruths relates to the ability of the average person to reason critically about reality. Posner concludes: “It is possible that science is valued by most Americans as another form of magic.” If “critical thinking” comes naturally from the scientific method, "magical thinking" flourishes in counterpoint. And those would be the dark ages. For most of human history, there was little to no progress. Almost no progress in a human lifetime. That was before the scientific method, a fundamentally better way for a culture to learn. But the moon landing denial is a much more difficult topic than merely noticing rampant ignorance and the failings of our education systems. Five years ago, the lunar rover argument on Facebook sparked some philosophical reflections that really got me thinking, and I'll share that here (it is public there too): @PaulJeffries (a very smart person IMHO): “These views aren’t just ignorance (in the literal sense of not having knowledge), so they can’t be addressed by simply informing people of the truth. The issues run much deeper. It’s a matter of epistemology, and a mindset where the priorities are about personal needs, more than knowledge which is inherently abstracted or depersonalized. The virtues of the scientific enlightenment, materialist mindset that is at issue are seen as unappealing by the people who reject “science”. They aren’t rubes who would believe science if only they heard the right claims; they’ve heard them. They fancy themselves as insightful resistors who seek a deeper truth. If people feel disenfranchised, marginalized, hopeless, and feel that authority is suspect because it’s always been an instrument of oppression, they’re going to look for hidden truths (such as astrology) and ways to upset stagnation (such as political contrarianism). At the very least they’ll be disinterested in things that don’t seem to pertain to their own lives or questions or suffering or striving. Similarly, they know that Trump “lies”; they think it’s epistemological jazz and his statements are code speak for a deeper truth. They are operational statements, not propositional ones. They won’t stop supporting Trump because you show them some “fact”, and they won’t stop trying to resist authoritarian oppression by ideology (as they see it) because you try to erase the sense that the world has meaning and purpose (as they seek it) by declaring scientific materialism and evolution. Ironically (for those who are in the tech community and baffled by the statistics cited in the post), there’s a deep connection between American entrepreneurialism and resistance to received knowledge of science or historical fact or whatnot). We’re a frontier culture of pragmatists. We reject authority in our church history. We reject theory, just as we reject fancy theology. We rejected a distant king. We rejected book learning and notions of European social class pretenses (except as it suited our attempts at justification of chattel slavery). It’s no accident that California in particular is the heart of innovation, where “weird” ideas that are very much not scientific materialism or received Judeo-Christian mainstream theology and metaphysics — weird spirituality —and weird art, weird communal living, weird hippy culture, on the physical frontier edge of a continent, all mix with the practical build it from nothing spirit of people who came looking for gold. No one can replicate Silicon Valley if they can’t capture the same admixture of irrationality, counterculture, anti-authoritarian experimentalism, pragmatism, commerce, autonomy, and sense that the world is to be synthesized at will, spun from whole cloth rather than an existing thing to be fought over and subdivided. I’m not saying that ignorance is an essential currency of innovation. But those among us, and here I am speaking for example of myself, who embrace science and education and knowledge and also embrace skepticism about authority and entrepreneurship, should realize that the qualities we leverage and instantiate have similar roots to those we think are obstacles in a very different population. We are closer than it seems. People who feel left behind, including by all the things we do in the tech frontier, will retreat to conservatism and skepticism and seek enlightenment in acts of revelation that feel authentic to them and are personally available and not reliant on distant authority. If we want to find common ground or even one day common mission, it won’t just be a matter of a slight improvement in public schools or making sure everyone somehow “hears the word” of science. Me: Fascinating. And worrisome, as this sounds like a self-amplifying bifurcation, creating a growing chasm of communication... to the point of mutual incoherence. Pulled from proscriptive moorings, both sides can fall prey to modern prophets and revealed truth (one a contrarian superhero within, the other a belief in a protocol — an externalized process for accumulating progress). Where is Karl Popper when we need him? Paul Jeffries: “Yeah, I think you might be right. As I suggested, their ultimate roots are common. But there’s a self-feeding wedge of mutual incomprehension, contempt, and identity oriented around not being the other. As with politics in America too. I should say I glossed over a complexity. There is a species of fanciful, humanistic, ambitious anti-science among the “costal elites” that is different than what you see among, for example, fundamentalist evangelicals. The former is folks who are denizens of tech (they might even be into crypto today; back in the day they were early BBS types, for instance) but into alternative medicine, vapor trails, vaccine skepticism, 9/11 conspiracies, remembered past lives, quantum mysticism, but also transhumanism and life extension and meditation and environmentalism and veganism and whatnot. They’re an admixture of perspectives and would grant the premise of common ground for debate and aren’t necessarily a part of a bifurcation wedge relative to adherents to received knowledge. Those folks don’t think outside of mainstream received knowledge in the same way and for the same reasons as, say, creationist evangelicals. Although there are overlaps on things such as skepticism of the state and big business that play out as common ground on things like anti-vax. The blue state / red state divide is self-amplifying. The divides inside blue, which can include both mysticism and hyper pseudo-rationality, are perhaps more within a shared dialectic. On another day it would be fun to explore whether one-way mass communications, and then the web, and then social media, amplified or diminished such differences, or just shed light on differences that were always there.”
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ADD or AD&D — Advanced Dungeons & Dragons I still have it all. My mom saved countless pages of dungeon layouts I did as child, these from when I was 14. And I painted the pewter D&D figurines in even more detail. As the Dungeon Master, you create worlds to explore in a game that never ends. In this case, the rings are floors of a tower, with a dungeon below. There are "pieces" of some grand puzzle to be found, some behind secret doors or guarded by monsters. There were various magical weapons to discover and puzzles to solve. This was one of 15 pages in this particular campaign. In the end, I generated them well in excess of my ability to play them with friends. Alas, I was an only child.
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