Today I walk with Coco Mao (
@cocokechun), CEO and co-founder of OpenArt (
@openart_ai), an AI visual storytelling platform. Coco spent years as an engineer at Google (
@Google), ran her own startup inside Google's internal startup incubator, and built OpenArt through six months of weekly pivots until a prototype built in under three days went viral on Hacker News (
@hackernews), and now she's betting the entire company on a new category she calls vibe directing.
We get into:
- Why she quit her Google side-hustle instincts, including the Amazon fidget-toy business she overstocked right before founding OpenArt
- The six months of weekly pivots that ended with a three-day prototype going viral on Hacker News
- OpenArt's bet on "vibe directing," the video-agent category she compares directly to vibe coding
- What actually separates good AI-generated work from "total slop": idea and taste, not the tools
- Launching the AI Personality Awards with Fanvue, and why she thinks AI influencers will make human creators more valuable, not less
So much more!
Timestamps
(00:00) Trailer
(00:54) Coco Mao, CEO & Co-Founder, OpenArt
(03:11) Selling fidget toys on Amazon before quitting Google
(04:56) Meeting co-founder Jon inside Google’s startup incubator
(08:01) Betting on AI art in 2022, a non-consensus space
(08:18) The weekly pivot that led to a Hacker News-viral prototype
(14:09) Naming OpenArt and getting mistaken for OpenAI
(14:56) Raising a seed round on speed, not metrics
(19:11) Hire fast, fire very fast
(20:01) Why OpenArt survived while image-gen rivals disappeared
(23:00) Vibe directing: the next category after vibe coding
(28:08) What separates good AI work from total slop
(39:40) Launching the AI Personality Awards with Fanvue
(43:46) The hardest part of scaling: reinventing yourself
(50:22) The one founder belief she now thinks is wrong
(51:20) Outro
Hope you enjoy this one!!