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Möbius
@MobiusExchange
Unified Margin for All DeFi Backed by @yzilabs
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@vladtenev @MobiusExchange enabling stock tokens AND stock perps as collateral. onchain prime brokerage for everyone
Distribution is only the starting point. Robinhood's success will depend on whether it can turn tokenized assets into usable credit. Millions of funded accounts do not automatically become onchain capital. Users still need a compelling reason to move onchain: better yield, new assets, 24/7 markets, and, more importantly, the ability to unlock leverage without selling what they already own. The real opportunity begins when tokenized stocks become usable collateral. Robinhood brings tokenized stocks onchain and Lighter takes the next step by allowing those assets to be used as collateral. Instead of simply holding tokenized equities, traders can deposit them directly and open perpetual positions without needing separate USDC or additional margin. But as more Perp DEXs, lending markets, and DeFi protocols begin accepting tokenized stocks as collateral, a new problem appears. Every protocol still manages collateral independently, forcing users to split capital and overfund multiple accounts. This is where a Credit Layer becomes necessary. Instead of locking collateral inside individual protocols, Mobius gives users a single Credit Account where their entire portfolio becomes one source of buying power. If the portfolio is healthy and well hedged, it becomes borrowable collateral. Users can borrow against their portfolio, deploy capital into new opportunities, and trade across multiple venues without moving collateral. Robinhood brings tokenized assets onchain. Lighter turns them into productive collateral. Mobius turns productive collateral into productive credit. That's what gives traders a reason to stay, not because everything is onchain, but because their capital works harder there
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at the end of the day, people want to long AND short with capital efficiency. right now there are only two types of venues that allow this for a regular user: a perp D(C)EX, and an Aave style two-way lending pool this makes Aave the closest we get in terms of a defi prime brokerage (until we launch Mobius) "problem" with this model is, there are much fewer spot assets that are safe to short than long, because of constrained liquidity. that's why you can't short (borrow) CRV/LDO/1INCH etc. on Aave but interestingly, you can freely short them on a perp DEX, because the house don't lose money in a squeeze (the traders do), unlike Aave, who has to cover bad debt @MobiusExchange is combining both: you can use tokenized stocks/RWA/defi positions as collateral (long), to short perp. on top of that, you also can leverage up by borrowing against your portfolio
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Why choose the PerpDEX with the lowest fees when you can trade across Lighter, Hyperliquid, and every other Perp DEX from a single account? simply because trading fees are only a small part of the cost. the bigger hidden costs are slippage, liquidity, uptime/reliability, collateral usage, and execution quality. the way to solve these hidden costs is to allocate positions intelligently across multiple venues while using a single account to achieve the lowest all-in execution cost. instead of forcing traders to choose one venue, Mobius gives traders one Credit Account with shared collateral and unified buying power, allowing execution to happen on Hyperliquid, Lighter, Aster, or any supported Perp DEX. execution can happen wherever conditions are best. now you only need one credit account → becomes your single source of buying power, with unified collateral, traders can borrow against it, increase leverage, and deploy capital without constantly moving funds between venues. as perpDEXs compete for order flow, traders shouldn’t have to choose where to park capital. they should just choose what to trade and the credit layer handles the rest.
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I'm very long $LIT and all, but these comparisons against @HyperliquidX fees are always very cherry picked imo They're completely ignoring staking tier discounts, maker discounts, volume discounts. Even just 100-1000 staked $HYPE, >$10m monthly volume, and executing ~50/50 maker/taker quickly gets you down to less than half of the displayed 4.5bp fees. For reference, my lifetime fees paid (very little HIP3 RWA volume) is just under 1bp. $BTC is always used as an example because of how bad slippage would exceed the fee discount on most altcoins. Funnily enough, if you change it to $LIT itself, @Hyperliquid becomes much cheaper than @Lighter_xyz to trade with slippage accounted for. If you literally only swing trade $BTC every single day, Lighter is probably cheaper, and potentially by a decent chunk if you only slam takers and stake no $HYPE (though I'd say both of those are a bit of a skill issue). If you trade a broader universe of alts, taker in/maker out, stake any $HYPE etc, it's way more favorable for Hyperliquid. Even if Hyperliquid was 1-2bps more expensive on majors, how much are you saving in capital efficiency by not needing to have collateral anywhere else for the pairs that are less liquid on Lighter? How much do you value access to much deeper liquidity on RWAs? How much do you value better uptime/reliability? Lighter has become way better over time but I've lost more money on Lighter to downtime (around 10/10 for example) and cancelled TWAPs than I've paid in lifetime fees on Hyperliquid. TLDR: Lighter is cheaper for a certain style and size of trader, Hyperliquid is cheaper for others. Real world use is way closer than these calculators portray. I use, own, and like both.
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Robinhood chain with Lighter on it allows you to conduct basis trade on the same chain you can buy Apple stock and short Apple perps in the same ecosystem, making capital much more efficient. but if another perp DEX offers deeper liquidity or a better funding rate, you have to move collateral, deposit margin again, and reopen the exact same trade. so efficiency disappears the moment you leave that venue. Mobius solves that with a universal Credit Account. instead of locking capital inside one exchange, it gives traders: • One Credit Account • One collateral pool • One unified margin system now you can keep your Apple spot position while choosing to short on Lighter, Hyperliquid, or any supported perp DEX. with Mobius, your basis trade doesn't sit there. Traders can also borrow against those positions to increase leverage and deploy more capital. Mobius lets you do that on every chain + every perp DEX, with leverage and execution moves to wherever liquidity and funding are best. Robinhood is unifying trading inside one venue. Mobius is unifying credit across every venue.
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𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐢𝐧𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐄𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐭 Market briefly got psyopped on Lighter. Here's what happened at the event: -they talked about perps, briefly mentioned Lighter and DYDX, and quickly moved on (dumped) -they came back to talking about perps and confirmed 𝐋𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐢𝐫 𝐨𝐟𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐩𝐬 𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐧𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐝𝐢𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐥𝐲 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐑𝐨𝐛𝐢𝐧𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐝 𝐖𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐭 -they talked about stock tokens, which are currently available in 120 jurisdictions -they added "𝐰𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐛𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐋𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞" IMO what they delivered herewas the best case scenario. US users' ability to trade perps is something that still requires the regulators to decide how it will work and when it can go live. But no one currently in the perps race is better positioned than Robinhood for this. Longer term, best case scenario = being able to trade stock tokens and stock perps directly in Robinhood app from any major jurisdiction. With real tokenized stocks + Lighter DEX integrated the deepest, this would create the 𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐬𝐭 𝐨𝐩𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐨 𝐚 𝐟𝐮𝐥𝐥𝐲 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐬𝐩𝐨𝐭/𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐩 𝐛𝐚𝐬𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐥𝐞 𝐧𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐬. This would add a lot of capital efficiency and liquidity to these markets. **𝐓𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐦𝐞𝐠𝐚-𝐛𝐮𝐥𝐥 𝐜𝐚𝐬𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐋𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭𝐞𝐫** in the medium-long term. As you know, I have been bullish Lighter recently based on their existing offering and volumes and viewing the Robinhood relationship as a longer-term call option. If anything, more confident now. While US users will not be slinging stock perps tomorrow, I see perps as clearly on the path for this to be possible in the future. While this will all take time to sort out and get right, the message is clear: the clearest crossover with PMF between TradFi and crypto is perpetuals. Long perps.
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the answer is probably yes, but only partly CME's biggest advantage is its prime broker and FCM network, allowing institutions to trade multiple asset classes under a single portfolio margin system but what if we ask the opposite question? if Defi could offer institutional-grade prime brokerage, compliance tools, permissionless long-tail markets, onchain composability, atomic settlement and true 24/7 trading why should crypto-native institutions trade on CME instead of a perp DEX? Defi still has one thing that TradFi cannot easily copy: composability. TradFi systems are mostly closed and assets stay inside where they're created. while Defi protocols can integrate with each other, making assets reusable across lending, trading, and yield strategies. that makes unified margin and prime brokerage a native feature of onchain finance. that’s where Mobius will win. Mobius is building the credit infrastructure needed to connect positions across protocols and enable unified collateral across DeFi. If that infrastructure becomes comparable to TradFi, crypto-native hedge funds would have a strong economic reason to trade on perp DEXs instead of CME.
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if CME rolls out 24/7 equity perps, why do institutions ever trade on perp DEXs?
The more HIP-3 markets fail because they can't compete with XYZ's liquidity, market makers, and order flow, the clearer one thing becomes: you can't compete by becoming another copycat Dreamcash had strong backing from Tether and over 200k USDT in weekly incentives, but it still failed badly. besides, permissionless doesn't mean competitive. anyone can launch a HIP-3 market, but launching a market is very different from building one that can survive. when new entrants repeatedly fail, competition slows, and the market becomes increasingly dependent on a single dominant venue. that's why aggregation makes more sense than replication. it's to make every venue feel like one market to the trader. instead of forcing users to split capital across isolated venues, the future may look more like a single Credit Account that can access the best execution across multiple perp venues. One account → One margin → Many perp venues.
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From TCP/IP to Visa: The Credit Layer Thesis The internet did not become valuable because of TCP/IP. - TCP/IP won. - Websites won. - Cloud infrastructure won. Yet some of the most valuable companies built on top of the internet were not infrastructure companies. They were Visa, Mastercard, JPMorgan, and Goldman Sachs. Why? Because once information could move freely, the next challenge became moving capital efficiently. The biggest businesses were not built around transmitting data. They were built around managing money, credit, collateral, and risk. DeFi may be entering a similar phase today.
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The strongest AI use case in onchain markets may not be finding alpha. It may be managing capital. Today, traders operate across fragmented perp venues, each with separate collateral pools, margin systems, and risk engines. As a result, capital sits idle, risk is managed in silos, and execution becomes increasingly inefficient. This is where a unified credit layer becomes important. By abstracting margin, collateral, and risk management into a single Credit Account, traders can access multiple venues through one balance sheet instead of managing each exchange independently. AI can monitor risk, route orders, allocate capital, and optimize execution in real time. But none of that works efficiently without a unified layer underneath. Execution quality and capital efficiency are becoming just as important as the trading strategy itself. AI may be the brain. The credit layer is the financial operating system that allows it to act.
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Hundreds of millions in builder code revenue awaiting a team of cracked AI devs to build serious (not scammy) finance/trading harness/infra/tooling on the transparent 24/7 exchange It’s almost always +EV to work on the products which are inevitable. I’ve been shocked to see no such serious application of AI thus far
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From TCP/IP to Visa: The Credit Layer Thesis The internet did not become valuable because of TCP/IP. - TCP/IP won. - Websites won. - Cloud infrastructure won. Yet some of the most valuable companies built on top of the internet were not infrastructure companies. They were Visa, Mastercard, JPMorgan, and Goldman Sachs. Why? Because once information could move freely, the next challenge became moving capital efficiently. The biggest businesses were not built around transmitting data. They were built around managing money, credit, collateral, and risk. DeFi may be entering a similar phase today.
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1/ Mobius has raised a strategic round led by @yzilabs, with participation from @FinalityCap, @l2iterative, @therollupco, @snzholding, @_inceptioncap, @ContributionCap and others. Unified margin trading across perp DEXs and chains, accessible to everyone.
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