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与 $SIVE团队的对话 — 深圳CIOE 2026 Sivers 展位 我去了 Sivers Semiconductors( $SIVE) 的展台,他们的展台比较偏僻,甚至连一件展示样品都没摆,只有简单的一张介绍书,但我在跟 $SIVE 团队的对话中得到一些有趣的内容: 问: 欧美和中国很多企业都在做光通信产品,从未来产品接轨的方向来看,Sivers 真正的第一优势到底在哪? Sivers: 从我们的供应链和器件来看,我们特点非常鲜明:别人很多用的是 Single Chip(单一器件),单一器件每次只发出一束光,你要三个不同的光谱,是在三个不同 temperature(温度)下发出来的; 而我们做的是 Laser Array(阵列器件)——在同一个 temperature(温度)下,单颗器件就能同时发出 8 束光来! 这就是我们产品的特色 ─── 问:那Sivers $SIVE 产能现在跟得上吗? Sivers : 在这个领域,没有谁家产能是足够的,每一家的产能都欠缺(limited)。 你从根源上讲,最底层的 Substrate(基板/衬底) 本身就是缺的。底层材料都缺,谁要说自己产能无穷,那纯属胡扯 更深层的道理在于:GPU 与硅相关的产品,因为它的 volume(体量)非常非常大,研发速度要快很多。 它和光通信(光连接)的迭代速度是 3 比 2——GPU 速度是 3,光通信器件只能产生 2,光器件的速度总是跟不上 怎么追?只能通过多赛道去追:一个细管速度很快,我就用粗的管子慢慢去跑,勉强能够跟上,为什么一直短缺?因为 GPU 发展太快了,GPU 三个月就迭代一次,光器件是一年、半年才迭代一次! 就是这么个道理 ─── 问:那 Sivers 现在的客户体量大概到什么层次了? Sivers : 我们是搞 R&D 技术的,具体客户商业合作受 NDA(保密协议) 严格限制,不能对外说 ─── 现场去展台交流的大多都是serenity @aleabitoreddit 的粉丝,坦白讲,Sivers 团队的合规意识极强,受限于 NDA,涉及具体客户体量、订单排产等“商业机密”,他们不会多透露 但如果你是想探讨光子学的技术与行业演进,Sivers非常乐意与你交流,也极其坦诚🫡🫡
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Glad $SIVE is attending CIOE Shenzen and hope my followers can go too! If you want my read on current landscape: -> Chinese pluggable makers like CIG (剑桥科技) are facing severe shortages in 70mW-200mW lasers. If you look at filings from CIG, they claim "substantially longer delivery times and deposits to secure capacity” along with statements of shortages. -> Innolight and others were also looking to secure multiple laser suppliers with LTAs recently from their filings. On the US side of things: -> $COHR was a major merchant laser supplier before, but largely withdrew from the market after rerouting them internally. "I do not see any time in the near future where we would be selling Indium Phosphide lasers externally." From their ER transcript. And then likely turned into a buyer in an already supply constrained market... where "over the long term, we will have some portion of our datacom transceivers that will be supported by external sources." -> $AAOI not really known to be a merchant supplier, but said same thing about laser capacity being rerouted towards transceivers. And having to turn away customers for lasers. -> For $LITE, they still supply lasers but stated: "We are commanding a significant price premium" for CW lasers $LITE Wupen Yuen: "wherever they can get the laser source, they will use that solution to support their build-out." So hinting... about customers just finding anything available due to shortages. -> $MTSI has no meaningful capacity online now, but they're already stating customers are approaching them with urgency to secure CW laser supply. -> Trendforce reported $AMD and hyperscaler CSPs are aggressively going out to secure CW laser supply to avoid future bottlenecks. And then you have Europe... Where $SIVE is coming online with "tremendous capacity available now" from their foundry partners. With 100M+ laser capacity Q4 2027, and maybe if you look at their 2:1 ratio implying ~200M targeted laser capacity from external foundries. They also happen to offer the same power range (70mW, 100 mW, 200mW) as the ones currently in shortage by pluggable makers in China. There's a massive void to fill, so this dramatically increases the chance of converting customers. (esp. Supported by Lumentum statements) My speculation was that some of the 6 active pluggable engagements were from China? Which is why they're attending the conference. So to any of my Chinese followers, maybe you can ask a few questions like: - if Europe is a laser source geography, if Innolight/Eoptolink/Cambridge are considering $SIVE. - if they're seeing ASP hikes in lasers, and what CW products are hardest to obtain If you are attending CIOE in Shenzhen!
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