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🧩 Qwen3.8-Flash-Next: A 6B-Active Preview of the Qwen4 Architecture On the same night Zhipu's GLM-5.3-Flash took over the timeline, @Alibaba_Qwen open-sourced Qwen3.8-Flash-Next — explicitly positioned as a preview of the Qwen4 architecture. Zhihu contributor Kitt在进化 argues that for people who actually run models locally, this is the more practical release of the night. The local-deployment groups he is in are, in his words, on fire. His take: the model is called 3.8, but the architecture is really Qwen4 in preview — and it borrows the best ideas from across the field. 1️⃣ Smaller, cheaper, and realistic for local deployment Flash-Next has 125B total parameters with only 6B active — far smaller than the 300B-class GLM-5.3-Flash. The API is priced at ¥1 input, ¥3 output, and ¥0.1 per cached million tokens, roughly matching DeepSeek-V4-Flash's off-peak rates. His comparison, per 1M tokens in RMB — input / output / cache hit: 🔹 Qwen3.8-Flash-Next: 1.0 / 3.0 / 0.1 🔹 GLM-5.3-Flash: 0.4 / 1.4 / 0.115 (limited-time promo rate) 🔹 DeepSeek-V4-Flash (off-peak): 1.5 / 4.5 / 0.05 2️⃣ A Qwen4 preview wearing a Qwen3.8 name The author points out this is the same play Zhipu made: GLM-5.3-Flash's architecture is also completely different from GLM-5.3. Shipping the new architecture as open weights early is deliberate pathfinding. Inference frameworks like vLLM and SGLang, plus the quantization toolchain, all need lead time to adapt before Qwen4 proper arrives. 3️⃣ An architecture that borrows from everyone The author reads Flash-Next as a synthesis of the field's best recent ideas. 🔹 Attention: Qwen's in-house QSA, built to balance throughput and speed on long context. 🔹 Knowledge: it absorbs DeepSeek's Engram line of work, packing prior knowledge into 51B of N-gram side parameters — high knowledge density at minimal compute cost. 🔹 Training: the Muon optimizer, popularized by Kimi, scheduled together with AdamW. 4️⃣ Half the active parameters, still overtaking At 6B active, Flash-Next is nearly half the size of DeepSeek-V4-Flash — yet Qwen's reported benchmarks show it overtaking that model on multiple coding and agent leaderboards. The author says he is not worried about real-world experience: the recent Qwen3.8-27B already proved itself in daily use, and this sits on the same foundation. 🔗 Full Reading: #Qwen# #Alibaba# #Qwen4# #OpenWeights# #LLM# #AIInference# #MoE#
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