Sam Altman on OpenAI’s next model and the AI backlash I recently sat down with Sam for a two-part conversation. We covered a lot of ground: the need to slow down frontier research, alignment concerns, OpenAI's next big model, Astra, competition with Anthropic, his thoughts on an IPO, reaching AGI, consumer hardware, and a lot more. Timestamps: 00:00 Why OpenAI Slowed Training 08:37 What Alignment Means 15:22 Keeping Humans in Control 24:39 AGI vs. Superintelligence 30:04 OpenAI’s Next Compute Bet 31:47 AI Backlash, Jobs, and Creators 41:31 OpenAI’s Missteps and Refocus 45:47 Astra and Computer-Using Agents 47:42 Regulation and the AI Race 51:24 Merging ChatGPT and Codex 54:22 The AI Compute Bubble 57:07 Recursive Self-Improvement and IPO 58:22 Humanoid Robots and Consumer Devices 1:05:47 Life After Superintelligence This episode was produced in partnership with @TIME. Thanks to the show's premier sponsors: @Atlassian, @meetgranola, and @mercury.