i was 14yo, undead mage, freshly lvl 60 late at night, a group was looking for a mage i was the only one answering that’s how i ended up in my first raid i lied to get in, told them it wasn’t my first time my rotation was shit, gear completely unoptimized but i listened and followed every order end of the raid, the guild master asks me to jump on a 1-1 voice chat he basically tells me i’m dead last in dps and that it’s not normal i won’t be invited again and blacklisted so i tell him i lied to you because i just wanted to join a group and play with people what do i need to do to come back next time? he gives me a todo list farm these items get these enchants watch this guide and learn your rotation you have 3 days “come back after that, i’ll check everything” i barely slept for 3 days came back almost full pre-bis, fully enchanted, rotation learned ended up #3# dps still not perfect but the guild master saw the commitment and offered me a spot in the second roster i listened, executed and came back stronger at 14yo few weeks later i became a recruiter for the guild learned a lot through that process