My conversation with @ericvishria of Benchmark. Eric has spent a decade investing across software and hardware, backing companies like Fireworks, Sierra, Sunday Robotics, and Cerebras. This one is about what history teaches us about the current moment, and a dispatch from inside the AI buildout through his companies. We discuss: - What AWS tells us about how big AI can get - How the goalposts have moved for every software company - Lessons from a decade with Cerebras - China and the energy bottleneck - Benchmark's return to growth investing - Robotics Enjoy! TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Intro 3:36 What Cloud Teaches Us About AI 12:52 Sierra, Sandcastles, and AI Products 17:35 The New SaaS Competitive Frontier 28:28 AI Demand and the Energy Bottleneck 31:28 The Cerebras Story and AI Chips 45:10 The Future of Robotics 52:53 Eric’s Venture Investing Philosophy 1:07:30 Going Public, AI Value, and Jobs