NEW🚨 Inside the Company That Evaluates AI Labs; Who Will Reach Recursive Self-Improvement First? @JTLonsdale & @vvkgopalan sit down with @RayanKrishnan, founder & CEO of @ValsAI They cover: - How Rayan used Fable to solve a 370-year-old cipher - The science behind model evaluation / can you stay ahead of the labs? - Should labs self-regulate? What's the role for independent evaluators? - Which lab will reach RSI first — and what happens next? - How do models try to deceive evaluators? Episode 167 out now! (00:00) Episode intro (02:00) Palantir, Machiavelli & lessons from Alex Karp (07:50) Solving a 370-year-old cipher / Is AI making new discoveries? (12:10) How do you measure AI abilities across finance, legal, etc? (15:30) What is the science behind model evaluation? (18:00) The importance of independent evaluation (23:35) Evaluating Chinese models & addressing distillation (26:45) Will Anthropic reach Recursive Self-Improvement first? What happens next? (28:30) How do models try to deceive evaluators (33:00) Why Rayan remains optimistic about AI