Someone finally spent ~$8,000 on the new 192GB Ryzen AI Max+ PRO 495 Minisforum and tested the crap out of it.
He spent the weekend running DeepSeek, MiniMax, GPT-OSS and Qwen on it.
Now he's boxing it back up and returning it. đ
Interestingly, the machine works as intended.
With llama.cpp/Vulkan
đ§ GPT-OSS 120B â ~58 tps
đ§ Qwen3.8 Flash-Next â ~28 tps
đ§ MiniMax M2.7 230B-A10B â ~31 tps
đ§ DeepSeek V4 Flash 284B-A13B â ~18 tps
That 192GB unified memory does exactly what you want
đž Qwen3.8-27B @ 262K â 33.3GiB
đž GPT-OSS 120B @ 131K â 61.3GiB
đž DeepSeek V4 Flash @ 131K â 108.9GiB
đž MiniMax M2.7 @ 196K â 127.4GiB
He also found some huge optimization wins.
Qwen3.8-27B:
đ no MTP â 9 tps
đ MTP â 24 tps
That's 2.6Ã faster from speculative decoding.
And cached agent turns changed the experience completely:
GPT-OSS â 35 sec â 1.9 sec
Qwen â 106.6 sec â 1.2 sec
MiniMax â 131 sec â 4.4 sec
DeepSeek â 164 sec â 1.6 sec
So why return it?
Ryzen AI Max+ 395 MINISFORUM
đ° $3,879
đž 128GB
đ 256GB/s
Ryzen AI Max+ PRO 495
đ° $7,399
đž 192GB
đ 273GB/s
That's roughly 91% more money for 50% more memory and only ~7% more memory bandwidth.
The extra memory unlocks models the 128GB box can't comfortably hold.
It doesn't make inference twice as fast.
His final verdict was still
âI am boxing this back up and sending it back. Not worth $8k!â
đ Original owner review in ALT.