Token Gremlin(@TokenGremlin):Don’t believe anyone saying “Doug” is OpenAI’s new model pretrained from scratch and that it’s coming after Astra. What actually happened is that SemiAnalysis got that information about the Doug model in early July, before the more recent reports about Astra, and ended up mixing things together in an August 6 article. Doug showed up BEFORE Astra in the reporting, not after. So there’s no way to confidently claim anything, because Doug could even be Astra under an earlier internal name. If you’re confused, just know that OpenAI used the name Doug, then Mewthree and MewFour, and only later Astra. It’s still completely unclear which one is which. When I have more information, I’ll share it.

2026.08.09 07:11

Don’t believe anyone saying “Doug” is OpenAI’s new model pretrained from scratch and that it’s coming after Astra. What actually happened is that SemiAnalysis got that information about the Doug model in early July, before the more recent reports about Astra, and ended up mixing things together in an August 6 article. Doug showed up BEFORE Astra in the reporting, not after. So there’s no way to confidently claim anything, because Doug could even be Astra under an earlier internal name. If you’re confused, just know that OpenAI used the name Doug, then Mewthree and MewFour, and only later Astra. It’s still completely unclear which one is which. When I have more information, I’ll share it.

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