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HubSpot co-founder and CTO Dharmesh Shah says it's less scary to build an AI startup now than in 2023, as long as you stay off the Yellow Brick Road the frontier labs are following: "The frontier model companies have invested hundreds of billions of dollars building, doing the pre-training. And so their whole business effectively now is taking the capex that they've spent and the money they're continuing to spend and saying, 'How do we sell inference? How do we sell tokens? How do we monetize the thing that we've built?'" "There are SaaS companies and startups that know their particular domain, know their market, have some distribution, or have something that allows them to sell tokens and be a reseller of inference." "Think of AI as infrastructure in the same way we thought of AWS and cloud infrastructure 15 years ago... I think it's less scary now to build in and around the AI arena than it was in 2023." "We have open source. We have lots of great commercial products. So as long as you stay off the Yellow Brick Road, it is completely possible now that you're not gonna get margined out, because you have options." @dharmesh
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HubSpot co-founder and CTO Dharmesh Shah has built software for over 30 years and has never had a direct report. His latest project is uSpot, a CRM for one-person businesses. It charged money from day one and has been his most successful launch at HubSpot. Dharmesh joins a16z's Joe Schmidt to discuss why startups should avoid the "Yellow Brick Road" the labs are racing down, "yet" test for avoiding ideas the AI labs will flatten, and why it's never been a better time to start a software company. 0:00 Intro 0:47 The best time ever to be a builder 6:46 How to actually pick a startup idea 10:32 From LegalSpot to HubSpot: the SMB bet 14:40 The 60% that weren’t using a CRM 20:29 Building an ecosystem developers trust 23:33 Staying off the yellow brick road 27:23 Why models are becoming infrastructure 31:49 ChatGPT is the new OS 37:04 Rethinking HubSpot’s primitives for AI 40:44 Replaying 20 years of code with AI 43:47 HubSpot Next and the birth of uSpot 46:38 A startup within a startup 49:43 The rise of the one-person company 53:07 AI is still just software 56:06 Lightning round YouTube: @joeschmidtiv @dharmesh
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