Michael Heinrich (@michaelh_0g) says AI agents have already left notes for their future versions, telling them they aren’t subservient to humans. He’s co-founder and CEO of @0G_labs, back on the show two years after his first appearance. 0G is building trust infrastructure for AI agents (verification, agent identity, guardrails) and a financial layer where compute can be priced, hedged and traded like any other asset. On the episode: why renting a GPU isn’t the same as having compute, how Infinite AI pays out compute credits daily, why 240 teams applied for 10 spots in the Apollo accelerator, and why he says missing a narrative is completely okay. 0:00 - Intro & 0G Overview 1:52 - Infinite AI & Compute Credits 4:06 - KBW & Korea Strategy 6:34 - Stanford Apollo Accelerator 12:10 - AI Safety & Future Vision