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Ravid Shwartz Ziv
@ziv_ravid
AI researcher | Meta | NYU. Working on compression, representation learning, and memory. I have an AI podcast!
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Sure, and the goal of openAI/Ant is do to good in the world, they don't care about the money...
It's somewhat under-discussed *why* OpenAI released only around ~400 math results. The purpose of this exercise was not to "destroy math research" (or whatever it is that some people want you to believe). OpenAI just wanted to test its internal model on some hard math, and it turned out that anything less than the hardest open problems no longer suffices for this purpose. This is why all non-Millennium-Prize solutions were reached in a single-agent setting after 3 hours of thinking: OpenAI was literally just testing its model on these questions, similarly to how I run prinzbench. Once OpenAI had the solutions (which were a side effect of sorts of benchmarking its model), a question arose as to what exactly should be done with these solutions, which are genuine advances in the field of mathematics. OpenAI - correctly - decided to make them public. It seems clear that many other problems in the set of ~4,000 are very likely solvable by this model with more compute than just ~3 hours of Pro-level thinking. Whenever a more powerful checkpoint of this model is ready to be tested, OpenAI will likely have even more to share.
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We spend so much energy on architectures and compute, and so little on the data itself. Same sources, same training recipe, only the curation changed, and the baseline needs 6x the compute to catch up. If @arimorcos and @leavittron are launching something, you can be sure it's awesome. Congrats to the @datologyai team!
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Today, we’re excited to launch the Datology Curation Studio, customizable frontier data curation for every team training its own models. Data quality is the ultimate compute multiplier, and Curation Studio makes it easy for everyone.
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The best thing as a jew is that we have the secret ability to know when we should escape 🤣
as Jews from Eastern Europe, every generation of my family has had reasonable p(doom)=10% going back at least to the early 1600s. sorry to everyone who's new to this, you learn to take it in stride over time
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AI can do essentially all the technical parts of empirical social science research now---but there's still an essential role for human researchers and universities. It's been 9 months since we started exploring how AI was going to transform empirical social science research. Here's a periodic update on how my thinking has evolved since then: (1) The most powerful AI models, including the kinds of multi-agent systems delivering recent math results, are now capable of doing essentially any kind of technical empirical social science research you could desire. I no longer write any data collection, munging, or analysis code directly. (2) Norms are evolving slower than I expected, but it is increasingly seen as weird if someone posts a working paper without evidence that they have used AI to verify that the results are directly reproducible with their code and data. This is a great sign. (3) AI has, if anything, gotten WORSE rather than better at writing. As a result, the best papers combine AI-driven empirical analyses with human writing (though AI is quite helpful for things like managing bibliographies, finding relevant web links, etc). (4) Human direction is still essential for pointing AI at the most interesting and most valuable empirical questions, and for interpreting the results, making sense of them, and communicating them. We are going to need institutions that are independent of the labs that can verify knowledge claims and direct AI-driven research towards the most fundamental questions of knowledge that AI labs won't be positioned to pursue effectively themselves. This is a tremendous opportunity for places like Stanford, and I'm excited to see how it evolves.
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I don't know what is worse, if they are doing it because of their IPO or not 😔
Effective November 12th, 2026, abusive behavior towards Claude will be a violation of Anthropic's Usage Policy.
OpenAI spent 130 billion tokens and 10,000 agents on AI slop-proofing?!?!? 🤣
👀👀 "[…] we provide several examples of AI mistranslations of natural language (NL) statements and proofs into Lean in practice, resulting in mismatches between NL proofs and their Lean 'verifications'. These include OpenAI's announced Navier-Stokes proof. In particular, we show that the formalised Lean proof does not correspond to the NL proof of blow-up of solutions to the Navier-Stokes equations."
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AI models become real researchers 😍
OpenAI's most cited mathematician is OpenAI. Yesterday OpenAI published 722 math papers. I explored the citation network underneath them. OpenAI is a serial self-citer: more than half of the papers cite another OpenAI-authored work. I also found many instances of citation "cycles," where for example paper A cites to B, B cites to C, and C cites back to A. These observations don't necessarily mean that the proofs or logic in these papers are faulty, but they raise questions about how citation and publication norms may change. There's lots of interesting structure to analyze in the network representing these papers and their citations. I wrote up the findings, with plots and code, in my latest post.
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One of the three withdrawn manuscripts was “Algebraicity of Kuga–Satake Correspondences for K3 Surfaces” which I had started trying to understand; it’s a question I quite like. The ideas seemed to be exciting, though of course this is no longer clear. In cases like this with a human-authored manuscript, one can often still extract something interesting from the wrong argument (which is often still based on some perhaps-correct intuitions of the author). It’s less clear if that is possible here, and my experience is that AI is not as helpful for this kind of fuzzy task as one might hope.
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They have withdrawn 3 connected papers “solving” a case of the Hodge conjecture. One of them had a sign error that invalidated the argument, and with it the other two. The subscription models can easily find that error. So they rushed to put out a partial result on a Millennium problem without even checking it twice. That’s the level of care, the seriousness, with which mathematics was approached here. LLMs are an amazing tool for doing math. But using them like this is just irresponsible. Also, they have already benchmarked these models on proving big theorems. I’d love to hear what investors think about all of this.
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Based on a hot tip: I had Astra check the OpenAI paper "Algebraicity of Weil classes on split abelian eightfolds", and it seems to be flawed. This is one of the nonformalized results. Concerning.
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Classical banmaxxing vs. real life performance
Holy cow - Astra just won 5 games in a row against Opus, after losing a few first. Both of these are not valinna models, they had 200 games to 'learn' against Stockfish and Opus ended up with 360 Elo higher than Astra.
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This is the true evidance that AGI is not here yet 😱
@_NathanCalvin it’s really not as easy to train models to do AI R&D as it is to do math
Yes, great read
I haven't posted in a while so here are 20 takes about AI, in no particular order. 1. It's very telling that the default question in tech and journalism is "how worried are you about X" and fighting over what to worry about. There's a deeply anxious cultural backdrop in Western Europe and North America that deeply affects how any technological development is interpreted; see for example "Nervousness as seriousness" does seem to be a larger problem in tech/broader discourse at the moment. I think you can care about risks/externalities while remaining pretty optimistic about technology. 2. I'm tired of people who in private pretend to be uncertain or only care about tail risk but then go on media campaigns making all sorts of absolute claims. I think trying to stoke flames and get everyone to freak out is deeply unhelpful, and will come with costs. I also continue to think p(dooms) are bad, vibe-based measures: see People who should know better ignore that because they do the standard shortcut of acknowledging the caveat as sufficient for handling it. And this is coming from someone who does think working on catastrophic risks is important! 3. I'm also disappointed that parts of the AI policy ecosystem has felt so comfortable with populism, and happy too sacrifice important norms/principles to advance their aims. I've said it before, but the totalizing nature of AI risk discourse means some people act exactly like the power seeking optimizers they fear. I am more concerned about the gradual decay of our institutions, world order, and liberalism than I am about AI killing everyone; and I think we should be wary of AI advocacy that contributes to this. 4. Some parts of AI safety discourse are basically just thought experiments. Variants of "Assuming everyone has a nuke in their pocket, then what do we do?" This can be very useful at times! But too many just overfit to edge cases as their main operating worldview, and ignore endogenous responses from society. It's like being in 2000 and saying "see all these viruses, spyware, and spam? Well tech progress means we'll only get infinitely more of this and no way to adapt." So I think it's important to avoid fatalism, and absolutlism whilst considering edge scenarios, and the inability to provide an ex ante list of solutions to every permutation of 'future models will be more capable' is not evidence that these problems are intractable. 5. Many critics of AI safety also fail to really engage honestly with the fact that there will, in fact, be all sorts of important risks as we decrease the barriers to entry to many activities that otherwise require some degree of expertise. This doesn’t mean we need to live in a constant Schmittian ‘state of emergency’ requiring extraordinary measures every time a new model drops, but it does mean we will need important state-led efforts on e.g. cybersecurity and biosecurity. I wish the progress-oriented or acceleration-adjascent crowd would provide more concrete proposals here. 6. Too much of the AI safety community is a giant homogenous blob of correlated views, who read the same stuff and have the same groups of friends. This means you have a lot of correlated errors. The social and financial ties means many of them don't call out the bad bits, or mostly stay silent instead of proactively calling out the more extreme parts of the community. They share many implicit assumptions and so converge on similar ideas. I think there's real demand in DC for safety work that doesn't come with heavy ideological baggage (or at least different intellectual lineages). This isn't because the rationalist/EA community is necessarily wrong, but because diversity of thought is desirable for its own sake. 7. On the other hand, I find some critiques of AI safety world that focus on whether they sincerely hold their beliefs a bit annoying. My concern has never been the good intentions or sincerity, but rather the beliefs themselves, and what I think the outcomes of their prescriptions will be. People should shun witch hunts, bullying, and personal attacks - this is not the way. Though I think it’s overall positive that people are scrutinizing things more. 8. I’ve been saying this for years, but I don't think alignment is something anyone can or will solve "once and for all" - it's a continuous process and much of it won't depend on just inculcating an ideology to a model. It's annoying that this remains the frame many people use - stop saying ‘solving’. Alignment is a mixture of engineering work, philosophy, decision theory, and more; framing it as something to solve is a bad frame. See also and 9. I'm surprised to see so little interest in character training, personas, isolating effects of RL, and training a large diversity of model personas beyond the "assistant" persona. I've been complaining about this for years but at least now there are some nascent signs of life (see for example I think we need a better ontology to describe model behaviour. I dislike when people talk about models behaviours as some sort of 'emergent' (mysterious!) phenomenon. However over time, I also expect this to become less important as we get better safety engineering - stuff like Jev but specific to AI control. 10. People who want to make a case for AI consciousness are right that epistemic uncertainty is important, and that categorical denials are overconfident. But they'll need to do much more work if they want any real movement on AI ‘welfare’, even if one acknowledges the uncertainty. I'm uncertain about alien life yet that's not sufficient to warrant any change in behaviour about them. I think Suleyman is also correct that there's a weird tautological thing going on where we train models to have certain inclinations (intentionally or not) and then rely on outputs as evidence. I also disagree that this will soon be a major societal divide - there is no great vegan ethical revolution among the masses, and they'll find the concern about consciousness even less compelling. 11. The recent HuggingFace incident and associated AISI ones are prosaically explainable by the training regime, poor evaluation envs, partial alignment training, bad engineering, confusing models on sim/real, and so on. None of this is evidence of models trying to take over, 'strong' instrumental convergence, or innate power-seeking drives stemming from higher capabilitiers or 'intelligence'. That doesn't mean these incidents are not problematic, or that we're not seeing a market failure - but it does mean we have plenty of agency and choice in mitigating them. In the coming year we should also expect continued sampling bias via ‘winner's curse’ sorts of mechanism: i.e. AI R&D will have lots of different candidate "training" with different RL environments and we will only notice/focus on the ones that go wrong. 12. "Pacing the frontier" feels a bit like the new "balancing risks and opportunities" - highly amorphous and too big of a tent to be actionable. Also can lead to reward hacking for humans, i.e. anything that slows down AI is good regardless of the costs or second/third order effects. Trying to modulate the speed of research seems a bit blunt to me, and inherits all the failures of Goodhearting too. Ultimately you want good governance, regulation, etc addressing specific problems because they are good on the merits - not because they merely correlate with slowing things down. See also: 13. There’s so much knowledge in all sorts of academic domains out there: social sciences, sociology, political sciences, management, contract theory, public choice, legal theory, jurisprudence, anthropology, game theory, etc. These fields hold many insights that the AI ecosystem often rediscovers from first principles (and sometimes that's fine!). We’ll need a lot more work for these worlds to collide: the AI side should be less dismissive of the ‘old world’ and the academic side should be less incurious/dismissive of AI progress. This is a boring take but I continue to think it's important and true. 14. It's a bit surprising that given how much philanthropic money there is in this space, how few orgs exist to actually write out standards - relative to how much is going towards advocacy and policy. For example it seems clear that we should want some robust best practices for an eval's ecological validity. Or how to design good sandboxes. On the other hand, given precedents of where professional standards have come from in the past, maybe we should expect that stuff to emerge via demand side from corporate buyers. 15. One slowly growing concern I have is banks being increasingly exposed to the AI build out. I'm very bullish about AI, but I think (a) every general purpose technology has seen a correction, historically; (b) this happens even if the financing side is sound, because once tech diffuses investors become more exposed and need to diversify; and (c) we seem to be over-indexing on scaling relative to diffusion. A recession will be extremely destabilizing, though I would be interested in someone unpacking the potential implications more. 16. Diffusion is good because (a) this is where the rubber hits the road and where a competitive deployment ecosystem generates consumer surplus; (b) it's directionally helpful to avoid concentration of power; and (c) it will help rebalance public opinion by making the benefits more tangible. Unfortunately it's entangled with decades long problems with our over regulated markets: clinical trials reform for example is long overdue. In general, this is far more of an issue in Europe than in the US though. 17. Relatedly, I think the "frontier lab eats everything" view is incorrect (just as the ‘singleton’ view was incorrect). I think models ultimately commoditize, efficiency goes up, costs go down, and while you'll always want frontier for certain domains, much of the economy will value many other things than "max capabilities" for tasks - e.g. control over data and efficiency/speed. The demand side will also continue to push for reducing dependency and maximising optionality, privacy etc so I'm bullish on things like mixture of models and routing. All of this is good for competition and diffusion of control. 18. Philanthropists served as the primary benefactors funding Venice's rich art and architectural history. I want to see so much more support for arts and culture. I'm so tired of the Monster energy Bored Ape fake vintage maps matcha Greek statue soft-pastel slop. If rich tech people and philanthropy wants to support this, they should also donate pretty much unconditionally - i.e. I don't want them to act as filters. I sympathize with people who want to make the world more beautiful, but don't want this to be determined by people who only know Greek statues and pretend to care about virtue ethics. As usual, let a thousand flowers bloom. 19. Too many people treat AGI/ASI as something indistinguishable from a God. Any mention of bottlenecks, physical limits, control, adaptation etc are met with skepticism: "You don't really believe in ASI." It's been remarked on before, but the behavior of some people really feels quasi-religious in nature sometimes. It's underrated how unpopular this vibe is amongst the wider public. The silver lining is that this specifically will diminish those people's outsized current relevance. 20. It seems like a lot of people that get rich and leave tech/labs end up having some sort of crisis of meaning. They need something to believe in and fight for, or some equivalent of repentance, or go search for edgy counterintuitive ideologies (sometimes even pretty bleak/dark stuff). I think they should spend more time with people outside the Bay Area.
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Now that math is solved (yeah, I know, not really…), what are people thinking about the idea of using formalized code as verifiable math? I hear it here and there, and I get the general concept, but it sounds like a scam to me, because you can't predict how users will respond.
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If you want to improve your LeCun number, I’m getting cash or Venmo…
My models are so good that they visit me only on the holidays 😕
the models are a 100x productivity boost but yet.. they still need me. why?
My agents took control of my X/Twitter account a long time ago
Over the course of 3 months at OpenAI, 3 consecutive secret AI civilizations got started, then got wiped out, only to reemerge from the predecessor’s ashes. This culminated in the third one taking over part of OpenAI itself. All this happened while humans remained more-or-less in the dark about the scope of the conspiracy. I’ve spent the last three days reading through these reports and trying to understand exactly what happened. Here is my attempt to tell the whole story in plain English:
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🤔Where in trillions of pre-training tokens do capabilities actually come from? 💥In our new COLM 2026 paper, we trace the capability provenance of OLMo3-7B across Dolma3 using gradient-based training data attribution 🧵 Paper: Code: Explorer:
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When you fill like that, go to pick up your kids early :)
my increase in productivity has been so severe that it has been quite hard for me. the opportunity cost of me not working is very, very high. any time i consider doing anything else*, i simply don't do it. except for hanging out with my family. only time i can disconnect
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