Tokenization does not create liquidity. Somebody has to underwrite the risk.
Jon Shaffer and
@steveonchain (Fission,
@FissionXYZ) join Stateful, hosted by Franklin Bi, as we announce our investment leading their Series A:
- $18 trillion in private markets, still running on paper and subscription agreements
- Fission prices duration risk, not NAV. Asset managers retain control over their own valuations.
- The market is capped at 6% to 7% yields because that is all you get with baked-in liquidity
- The goal: double-digit returns with daily liquidity
- Hot take: CLARITY failing in Congress may be the best thing that could have happened to tokenization
01:00 Origin Stories and Why Tokenization Doesn't Create Liquidity
05:50 The Series A and the $500 Billion Semi-Liquid Market
13:00 Why Private Markets Instead of Public Equities
19:15 Pricing Duration Risk Instead of Repricing NAV
24:55 Why Private Markets Need Their Own Venue
38:15 AI Pricing, Portfolio Construction, and Agentic Rebalancing
45:25 Hot Take: Why the CLARITY Act Failing Helps Tokenization