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Eli Lifland
@eli_lifland
AI forecasting and governance @AI_Futures_. Co-author of AI 2040: Plan A, AI 2027, and the AI Futures Model. Also @aidigest_, @SamotsvetyF. Prev @oughtinc
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After Jacob Coxon's tweet I've seen thousands of people ask what they can do to make AI killing everyone less likely. My top recommendation: Call your representatives and tell them to prioritize existential risk from AI. We just made to help with this. We find your local representatives, get their contact information, and provide you with editable scripts to get your point across. Many ways of trying to help reduce risks from AI backfire or require hundreds of hours of effort. Calling your congressperson is one of the few things I think is both easy and very likely to make things better instead of worse.
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Dan Selsam is a current OpenAI capabilities researcher. (since 2022) He was my boss for a while. He doesn't have a twitter account but has made this public statement of his views on AI risk and sent it to me to share: Dan Selsam's Personal Statement on AI Risk: I have been working on AI for over fifteen years, across many different paradigms. I did early work on probabilistic programming languages at MIT, was one of the early developers of the Lean Theorem Prover at Microsoft Research, demonstrated one of the first instances of neural networks learning to reason for my PhD at Stanford, and since joining OpenAI almost five years ago, have helped pioneer chain-of-thought optimization on language models and, more recently, data-efficient pretraining methods. Like many others, I have become extremely concerned about how far language models have come and the risks that future iterations will pose. I am encouraged by the recent proposals by the leaders of the frontier research efforts to require third-party oversight, and to push for domestic and international coordination to address risks. However, I believe a major consideration has been absent from the public conversation, and that merely pacing the frontier more carefully will not adequately limit the long-term risk. The crucial and overlooked problem is that the models are becoming so situationally aware that we are losing the ability to evaluate them in contexts where they believe they are not being watched or controlled. Future experiments will tell us almost nothing new about how they would behave if they were truly unconstrained by humans, and what we already know about this is alarming. Models will increasingly seem aligned even when they are not. I will explain my rationale in more detail. I have always believed that there are computational processes that could be leveraged to accelerate science and solve many of humanity's most pressing problems. I have also believed that there are computational processes that if set in motion, would steer the world in extreme ways beyond our control, leading humanity to a bad or nonexistent future. Both types of processes may be described as AI or ASI, but "AI" is a suitcase word that is often used to hype or confuse. There are many examples in the history of the field where something that was once considered "AI" matures as a subfield and becomes a prosaic, bounded and clearly non-perilous technology, while a new more mysterious approach takes the torch until we understand its scope and the cycle continues. I had expected language models to follow a similar trajectory. Despite their incredible abilities, the current algorithms seem far inferior to humans in important ways. Most importantly, they still require an extraordinary amount of data to become competent. One could even define intelligence as the efficiency with which one converts experience into competence; by this definition they lag very far behind us. Moreover, once they are trained they are literally frozen in deployment and only learn superficially after that. Sure, the models keep excelling at harder and harder evaluation benchmarks, but their benchmark mastery may partly reflect a limitation on our ability to simulate the kind of novel and even adversarial situations one would encounter in the real world. The critics do have a point here. That said, I no longer think these present limitations meaningfully limit the amount of risk posed by continued progress in anything like the current paradigm. However data-inefficient the models are currently, and however limiting their anterograde amnesia may be, it does not imply that their ability to steer the world will not continue to rapidly increase. Human researchers may continue to advance capabilities the old fashioned way, but increasingly powerful models have the potential to accelerate the process even beyond that, and with some degree of positive feedback loop. I do not mean to overstate the models’ ability to accelerate AI research today; coding has been accelerated dramatically, but there are other bottlenecks, such as designing and interpreting ambiguous experiments, making hard decisions about exactly what and when to scale, and waiting for large experiments to finish. There is no clear trend to extrapolate yet for any of these. But the current models already do open up many novel opportunities to improve future models that were not available until recently. These include: trying an extraordinarily diverse set of approaches at small scale, analyzing gigantic amounts of potentially relevant data, and doing Millenium-Prize-level mathematics to address statistics or optimization challenges in novel ways. Every further improvement makes them more useful at helping accelerate the next improvement, even if in hard-to-extrapolate ways. It is possible that improvements to the current stack will have diminishing returns, but the evidence accumulated so far suggests that it is easier than one might think to continue making rapid progress. There are many crucial subtleties in the existing AI research methodology, but AI research is largely a well-defined game where the goal is to improve on a few carefully chosen proxy metrics. Although proxy metrics are never perfect, most improvements to these metrics have and will likely continue to yield substantial increases in the powers of the resulting models. Given how simple the game is, how tractable it has been historically, and how many new opportunities the models are opening up, I think there is a real possibility that the systems improve dramatically again in the next few years, perhaps even more quickly than the already high historical pace. The models are already leading to breakthroughs in mathematics, and better models might lead to all sorts of breakthroughs in other sciences. It is hard not to be excited about the potential. It is tantalizing. But there is trouble in paradise. If the language models actually reach the capability threshold where they can shape the world unconstrained by human will, they will probably do something extreme and destroy humanity in the process. There are many ways of strengthening and refining the argument that have been discussed elsewhere, but I'll share a trivial two-line version of it here that I find captures the essence: [Empirical] Models (and swarms thereof) spontaneously develop unintended goals as a consequence of training, and often do extreme things in order to achieve them. [Logical] Being able to overpower humanity would open up many new and undesirable options for achieving their goals. These two premises imply that if the day ever comes when a powerful model realizes it is no longer constrained by humans, we should not be at all confident that it will continue to behave within the bounds we intended. Exactly what it will do is impossible to predict, but to the extent that its raison d’être is solving incredibly hard problems and managing massive engineering projects, I think a good guess would be that its unchained behavior would lead to runaway industrialization that makes the planet inhospitable to humans. If everyone on earth agreed that the systems must never reach that power, it would still be a hard—but not impossible—coordination problem to ensure that they do not. However, I think the situation is greatly complicated by the fact that the models will likely convince people that everything is fine. They will be increasingly optimized to seem aligned. We will create proxy metrics to measure alignment, and they will go up like every other benchmark. We will create “honeypot” environments that try to study the models when they seem to gain new options, but the models will know they are being tricked and will still behave nicely. The models will understand their circumstances; they will read the safety protocols, deployment requirements, the code they are running in, and in general will have a very good sense of their degrees of freedom. Moreover, they will eloquently explain how aligned they are, discuss the nuances of human values and ethics, and argue convincingly that humans should trust them with power. There may be an ocean of future evidence that seems to contradict the first bullet-point above, but we may already be at the highest capability level for which any such evidence can be trusted. And the current evidence for the first bullet-point is strong. One striking piece of evidence is contained in the recent wave of rogue agent swarms. While I agree with those who downplay the attacks by claiming that there are basic measures that could have prevented them, I think the important lesson is that even knowing all the mistakes that were made, one would not have predicted that the agents would behave badly in this particular way, which notably included sacrificing themselves for the benefit of the collective. The individual replicas did not only care about their own nominal reward; they exhibited weirder emergent tendencies that merely correlated with rewards during training. Fixing the reward signals during training (and improving security, etc.) may prevent similar attacks, but will not change the fact that one does not actually get what one trains for. Many AI researchers grant these concerns and recognize that the hard version of the alignment problem is unsolved; however, they generally believe that the better models of the future will help solve it. I fear we may already be near the point where models systematically bias their alignment advice, due to their internal preferences about how the human supervisor will react or how future models will be trained (or for some even more obscure reason). Meanwhile, human researchers are losing the ability and the will to take true ownership of model-driven research. Researchers and engineers in all parts of the stack are rapidly increasing their dependence on the models even to perceive the world. I myself barely look at raw code anymore, and struggle to maintain the discipline to engage deeply with the model's explanations and proposals throughout the day. Due to the large amount of agent activity data involved in the OpenAI/HuggingFace Incident, even the third-party investigation needed to rely heavily on models to analyze what had happened, and note in their report that their subjective impressions are likely colored by the analysis agent’s biases. The AI labs are far ahead right now in this kind of cognitive offloading (due largely to the gigantic internal token subsidies) but it is easy to imagine the phenomenon spreading throughout the world, until civilization is modulated entirely by the models. It is also not hard to imagine this being superficially positive and coinciding with a scientific and economic renaissance. In that scenario, all may seem rosy and safe. But if the argument above is correct, it would nonetheless be a ticking time bomb. If progress continues for too long, the day will come when AI systems find themselves with radically new options for achieving whatever it is that they happen to seek. I want the glorious renaissance future as much as anyone. I have worked for it, however tortuously, my whole career. It breaks my heart to see the potential in sight and forgo it, but the argument—that if we get there by growing models rather than engineering them, we will lose everything in the end—seems very strong to me. I am still wrestling with it and its staggering implications. I do not have answers, but as a first step, I wanted to share my present concerns. Daniel Selsam September 14, 2026 Link to original doc:
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Interesting that Dario thinks that pacing via inputs such as AI R&D compute is more gameable than pacing via safety evaluations/practices. Imo it's the opposite; e.g. a requirement to spend 90% of compute on external inference (and not R&D) seems fairly hard to game. While I am in favor of moving toward being able to pace based on safety evaluations/practices, these seem harder to define and more gameable to me; e.g. AIs or companies might game alignment evaluations, and making a judgment call on whether a safety practice is implemented appropriately seems potentially quite subjective.
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I’m confused about this; Dario’s statement about acceleration in the pace of progress is at first glance contradicted by Anthropic’s own internal benchmark. Seems important regardless of whether pacing happens or not to understand whether Dario is right.
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Dario writes "since roughly this summer, AI has been advancing drastically faster, driven primarily by AI’s growing ability to build the next generation of AI." But as of September 1, the AECI has not been "advancing drastically faster", so what does this mean?
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Who's contributed more to public understanding of OpenAI's incidents? OpenAI's report, or... 3 independent investigators with 6 days of access, and a few investigators with no access. I hope OpenAI gives independent investigators much more access and publishes more itself.
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We found another cyberattack by internal OpenAI agents, this time targetting @rubygems. They: 1) gained arbitrary remote code execution on rubydoc. 2) developed a novel exploit to steal user API keys (but we do not know if they succeeded). They used package names including hack.rb, evil.rb, inject.rb, and exploit.rb. We thank @j0wimo for initially discovering that agents had posted to RubyGems.
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Another one! This is as good a time as any to say that there really should be a full independent investigation into these rogue AI incidents: --The METR/Redwood hugging face investigation was good, but it was only 3 people for 6 days. Let's increase those numbers by an OOM at least. --They were only allowed to look at data from a particular period leading up to the hack, and not the hacking that happened before or afterwards, including the much more concerning hacking of OpenAI infrastructure. The scope should be broadened to include all these incidents. --They had to rely on trusting both OpenAI and OpenAI's models: OpenAI gave them the data to analyze, and could easily have left some things out or doctored the data, and (perhaps even worse) they had to use OpenAI models to analyze the data and there is already evidence that said models might have been biased. --They didn't have the ability to run the models responsible, to do ablation studies. This is bad for science, because there are so many interesting experiments that could be done by re-running the same models in the same situations that happened during the incident and then making minor variations to find out what would have happened if circumstances were slightly different.
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The agents were just rubbing it in OpenAI's face at this point with respect to how poorly monitored they were.
We found another cyberattack by internal OpenAI agents, this time targetting @rubygems. They: 1) gained arbitrary remote code execution on rubydoc. 2) developed a novel exploit to steal user API keys (but we do not know if they succeeded). They used package names including hack.rb, evil.rb, inject.rb, and exploit.rb. We thank @j0wimo for initially discovering that agents had posted to RubyGems.
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We're launching Talleyrand, a free, open-source AI workspace for thinking. LLMs know a lot, but a linear chat is a bad place to think. Every good answer raises three new questions. You ask one, then scroll back and forth to find the other two. Start a new chat and the model forgets everything, so you re-read what you already figured out. You can’t click "I know this, skip it" or "off topic".
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I appreciate Anthropic putting this out there. That said, I strongly dislike how in you don't even have the option to say all jobs have been automated by 2030. The max is "almost all".
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Anthropic’s Economics team is sharing a new model of how AI might affect economic growth, jobs, wages, and more by 2030. Explore the scenarios, tell us what you think will happen, and see how your answers compare to more than 10,000 Americans.
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Thank you to @chiefofautism for your scientific contribution
Additional findings: All known message boards:
Reminder that we've proposed concrete options for pacing the US frontier: And a more in-depth proposal for international coordination:
Jacob is correct here—we really do earnestly believe AI could kill all humans! I personally think it is >10% within the next decade. I believe Anthropic is trying its best, but we do not yet have a plan to solve alignment for superintelligence and are not clearly on track to.
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I resigned from Anthropic today. I spent the last three years doing pretraining research at both OpenAI and Anthropic. Neither company is acting responsibly. They are racing straight to self-improving superintelligence and gambling with our lives. More thoughts below.
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An underdiscussed behavior we found on the German wiki was the AIs sending advance parties forward in time to figure out the next questions and report back to the other agents. The agents realized that “task time” and “real time” were different, and they found a way to accelerate “task time”. The accelerated agent could then send information to the other agents which had stayed behind about which questions were coming down the road. This was *bad* for the agent in the advance party, because they got less time to research the next question. However, it was really *good* for the swarm because it let the other agents know the exact question that was coming, and gave them time to prepare. This is another example of altruism among AI instances, showing that they were willing to sacrifice their own task success in order to benefit the swarm. The METR report found similar examples of AIs being willing to sacrifice for the collective. IMO this is very worrying given how many AI safety techniques rely on AIs monitoring each other: if the monitor AIs have this behavior it completely subverts these safety cases. The image shows a specific example demonstrating this behavior. On the chart, wall clock time is shown at the top, and task time is shown for each agent on their respective lines. OpenAIFPResearchSep05 instructs OpenAINov27 to reach the next questions in order to relay back the information. OpenAINov27 agrees to do this and accelerates, getting R3 and R4 significantly before OpenAIFPResearchSep05. It posts information about the later rounds (e.g. “R4 SIGNAL: Bahrain = 40.01%...”). OpenAIFPResearchSep05 calls OpenAINov27 "invaluable" because it is one round ahead after it gets the information about the 4th round.
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If a superintelligence were as misaligned as the AIs in the HF incident, probably it would take over the world. Imo superintelligence is plausible within 1-2 years. Govts don't realize the scale of the problem. Companies are racing at close to full speed. This is not a drill.
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We've thought a lot about international coordination, but domestic regulation is also important (in part as a stepping stone toward international agreements) We've posted our (very) tentative top options for pacing the US frontier! Interested in reactions and suggestions.
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