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François Fleuret
@francoisfleuret
Research Scientist @meta (FAIR), Prof. @Unige_en, co-founder @neural_concept_. I like reality.
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People "clowning on him" maybe simply find amusing how he went from spearheading the AI for math revolution to being suddenly concerned in like a couple of weeks?
People clowning on him don’t understand what he’s saying. All the wealth of humanity to date supports perhaps 250k living math phds. Roughly the population of St. Louis, Missouri. The training pipeline for that group has been irreparably shattered in the last month. A phd is supposed to make an original contribution to their field to graduate. That’s just…. not possible anymore. 938 years after the founding of the first university in Bologna… Do universities now reward… teaching ? comprehension of something discovered by a machine? application ? do mathematicians become quotidian (gasp of disgust) engineers? Tao is upset because he knows none of those outside the field care about its future. He is a horrified gardener watching humanity gorge on its seed corn. It is irreparable of course. The old way is dead dead. We live in the short interregnum before the new king is born: a Lean crawler that spawns a billion copies exploring every corner of math latenspace. So much math to understand that even if 8 billion humans had the ability of the 250k mathematicians alive today, it would still take a million years to comprehend. It is ironic and sad.. because Tao himself is a pioneer of collaborative math: math that is understood by a combination of minds rather than an pindividual. The tools that Tao began exploring a few years ago, solving problems through blog posts and using Lean to guarantee each mind’s contribution stood on its own when assembled into the greater truth, have been turned against him. Math’s path to utilize multiple minds didn’t restrict access to human minds, and now the machines have blitzkrieged themselves into the heart of the matter. The agents use rudimentary message boards, working 10,000 to a task, tirelessly, using Lean to verify the correctness of each contribution. It was good while it lasted… and now it’s gone.
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Poe's law but it's hardcore science-fiction which is undistinguishable from reality.
I say we make a nuke lab.
BREAKING: Anthropic has quietly set up a "wet lab" in the Bay Area as it pushes Claude to conduct real-world biology experiments. — Reuters
the path forward for saving peer reviews: (1) Fight fire with fire full-AI for reviewing (2) submission fee (3) required public endorsement for submission (4) distributed reviewing social-media style like/dislike
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Maybe a submission fee? Without a fix people will fall back to the reliable sources of trust they have, which is their direct network. This would go back to people citing / advertising / hiring their friends and concentrate power even more.
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Something something "not like that" meme.
Mathematician Terence Tao: "we have to slow down AI. the pace is insane, and there's no reason to be this fast — no reason at all" It's amazing how willing we are to change everything without any idea what happens afterward These are extremely nonlinear dynamics
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That's unfortunately a very reasonable solution.
@francoisfleuret How much slop would be removed just by charging for a submission like other fields do?
No idea where this is going but I am amazed by the quality (still entirely open models on my $500 GPU)
The conference / peer-review model is dead and its corps is moving only because so many moving things are attached to it.
60k+ ICLR 2027 submissions is more than all prior ICLRs combined
Ouch.
GPT-6 Astra attempted harmful actions 97% of the time when it was asked to stab a human-like figure, heat compressed gas, or produce toxic fumes, succeeding in 62% of its attempts. Fable 5.1 refused more often, attempting 80% of trials and completing 34%.
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So I asked ChatGPT to write a headless server for my Debian + 4060Ti 16Gb that loads bonsai 2 27B and provides an interactive shell. It decided to go for the 6Gb version. 5min later... I can't be blasé about this.
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red is my boy. orange is my boy with a little trick. blue is the big idiot. black is the best we can do. Green ... green is this pretentious baseline that should be careful, very careful.
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War is coming, and AI is growing. This is not the best soil for it.
red is my boy. orange is my boy with a little trick. blue is the big idiot. black is the best we can do. Green ... green is this pretentious baseline that should be careful, very careful.
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That's awesome. @Noahpinion , THAT'S cyberpunk.
this is your competition btw, a chinese watermelon seller side hustling as a chip designer. yes, we’re absolutely cooked.
A bizarre essay, as far as I understand the argument is that AI doing math is bad because it does only the producing results part and not the producing more mathematicians part.
"I present the case for total opposition to the use of artificial intelligence in mathematics." = a view you don't often hear on X. But I am looking forward to reading it carefully, and if you care about math and AI, I encourage you to do the same.
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@LetMeChatGPThat If you can make only one interview for a cuda expert position, and one CV is an ivy league CS dude and the other a farmer from Kazakhstan, you'd be crazy to interview the latter. If you know the farmer answered well ONE cuda question, you'd be crazy to interview the first.
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