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Where digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Hosted by @andyyy & @robbieklages
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Why CLARITY Is Likely To Happen This Year (Detailed Explanation) with @EleanorTerrett Host of @CryptoAmerica_ Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:28 The Ethics Provision Explained 06:45 Why Democrats Say It's Not Enough 09:22 60 Democrats Votes Needed 11:24 The FTX Hangover Still Lingers 14:26 BRCA's Developer Liability Fight 17:10 Staking And Bank Pushback
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FULL INTERVIEW: @vnovakovski on @Lighter_xyz x Robinhood Chain, Token vs. Equity, and Lessons from Quant Days Timestamps 00:00 Intro 04:23 Options On Pre-IPO Stocks 06:49 Robinhood And Telegram Partnerships 09:58 Regulatory Parameters Per Instance 12:39 A Global Liquidity Layer 16:18 The Token Is The Equity 19:00 Buyback Mechanics Explained 21:13 Clarity's Revenue Sharing Rules 24:39 Diversified Revenue Story 28:27 Institutional Vs Retail Tracks 31:44 Lessons From Citadel And SBF 34:02 AI Agents Start Trading
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Tushar Jain says the next buyers of Zcash (ZEC) are the same people who bought Bitcoin in 2015-2020: "People, often outside the US, in countries with more oppressive governments, who want to be able to flee with their wealth." "The Netherlands just passed an unrealized capital gains tax. People protect themselves from things like that, and they look to a private, censorship-resistant store of value like ZEC to do it." "You saw wealthy Chinese entrepreneurs get into crypto back then. They're quieter now, but they moved a lot of money in. That politically exposed buyer is the next set of buyers for Zcash, just like they were for Bitcoin."
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FULL INTERVIEW: Ethereum’s Sleeping Giant Just Woke Up (Aqua Launch Deep Dive) with @1inch Co-founder, Sergej Kunz @deacix Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:13 The $150 Million Fee Leak 02:34 1inch's Origin And Pathfinder 04:11 Fusion And The Sandwich Attack Fix 04:49 Fixing The Broken Bridge Space 09:17 Compliance Without Mixing Liquidity 11:40 Aqua's Incentive Program 13:09 Liquidity That Never Leaves Your Wallet 15:01 The Math Behind Optimal Fees 18:22 Looping For 40x Efficiency 23:09 One Wallet, Eight Venues 25:53 85% Of Liquidity Sits Idle 28:12 4x LP Fee Efficiency 29:34 Aqua Incentives & Game Theory
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DeFi Dad says even Ethereum's biggest competitors, Solana, Hyperliquid, are hugely reliant on it. "I still believe Ethereum's market cap should be in the trillions, based on all the economic activity it hosts." "Destroy the Ethereum network tomorrow and you take down, conservatively, 60% of all DeFi. Probably more, because of the dependencies." "L1 acts as the hub between all these chains, whether Solana likes it or not. People love to move between chains, and the volume flows back to L1." "Even if you're a Hyperliquid bull, you're hugely reliant on Ethereum."
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Jito Labs COO Rebecca Rettig on the thing everyone gets wrong about the CLARITY Act: passing it isn't the finish line: "I circulated the updated 600-page combined draft and got a ton of questions, what do we do about this, about that? Some of it you plan for. A lot of it is wait and see." "The interesting part is the unprecedented number of rulemakings. CLARITY lays out the framework, but it hands the SEC and CFTC the authority to write the actual compliance rules. Even the big token-disclosure section, you wait for the SEC to do rulemaking." "I've been through 6 or 7 rounds of market structure. You can't really plan until the bill actually passes. So we're on calls about it daily, but we're not changing our strategy yet."
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"When the market watches us move tokens, it assumes we're dumping, when we're actually doubling down." @PanteraCapital GP @FranklinBi explains why public transparency forces his fund into suboptimal trades, and misleads the whole market.
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1,000 confidential transfers per second, on standard GPUs, a year early. @zama CEO @randhindi unpacks the milestone that makes FHE a done deal.
🚨LIVE: ZAMA Shielded Q2 Report Live! CLARITY & Market Updates! Rand Hindi, Pantera & Morpho, Then Rebecca Rettig Calls In
Mike Dudas (@mdudas) on why institutional investors can't value tokens like PUMP or HYPE, and why that keeps them cheap: "A fundamental investor looks at the PUMP, even HYPE, and doesn't understand how to value it." "It doesn't have the same rights they've seen before. It's confusing, and so these things trade at a discount to what their business fundamentals and prospects should suggest. PUMP significantly, HYPE reasonably." "In a bear market, that makes sense. In a bull market, provided the business keeps delivering, it reflexively goes the other way."
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What's actually new about ERC-8161? The lads say it is not the packaging. You could always buy a gold ETF, a bond, a security, and a money market fund yourself, just inefficiently. The zero-to-one is that a multi-asset, actively-managed vault can now be used as collateral.
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Maredith Hannon explains why @WisdomTreePrime sees tokenization as the ETF story repeating, not a new mega-trend: "The way ETFs were the gateway to access for all investors through a brokerage account, tokenization is that access for global investors, all through your phone. That's our ethos: the democratization of finance." "A CFO managing money across the world can move between a stablecoin and a money-market fund seamlessly, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, without going through a bank." "Where we've really excelled is a money-market fund that moves and trades like a stablecoin, but with the yield you're not getting from a stablecoin."
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Paul Frambot explains why token buybacks are the wrong move if you're actually trying to 1000x: "If you spend $100 million on buybacks, what if you spent that on your team, on product, on building and growing instead?" "I want to transform the entire financial system, hundreds of trillions of dollars. I need the money. I'm not throwing it away for 5%. I want this to 100x, to 1000x." "If you're playing the long-term, ambitious game, it's not economically rational to distribute. That's a strong opinion of mine."
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Keone Hon says banks and enterprises don’t want to build inside walled gardens. “When we talk to enterprises, when we talk to banks, one of the consistent things that we hear is that they care about not building in a walled garden.” “They care about not building inside of an ecosystem where there’s one anchor tenant who is going to end up preferencing themselves.” “They care about building on credibly neutral, decentralized environments like Ethereum or Monad.” “The real value Monad can deliver is a dependable, performant, well-engineered system.” “One that delivers a high degree of decentralization and is credibly neutral.” “Not just a centralized thing that is kind of run by one big company.”
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WisdomTree (@WisdomTreePrime) Digital Assets BD: Tokenization Is The Biggest Shift In Finance Happening Today (Full Thesis) 00:00 Intro 02:37 Building Their Own Tech Stack 05:18 Who Wins The Tokenization Wave 09:04 Choosing The Right Partners 11:31 Why A Tokenized Money Market Fund 13:37 Clarity Act Deadline Looms 15:39 Genius Act's Tidal Wave Effect 19:13 Vaults And Custom Portfolios 22:05 Why Privacy Is Non-Negotiable 27:37 Why Investors Choose Tokenization
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Meredith Hannon explains why @WisdomTreePrime sees tokenization as the ETF story repeating, not a new mega-trend: "The way ETFs were the gateway to access for all investors through a brokerage account, tokenization is that access for global investors, all through your phone. That's our ethos: the democratization of finance." "A CFO managing money across the world can move between a stablecoin and a money-market fund seamlessly, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, without going through a bank." "Where we've really excelled is a money-market fund that moves and trades like a stablecoin, but with the yield you're not getting from a stablecoin."
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Happy Tuesday from the Tokenization Tower. Bitcoin showing the stocks to crypto rotation in real time, love to see it. Some decent earnings reports coming out today as well. CLARITY is in maximum crunch time right now, we’ll have some updates from yesterday’s session as well. Market & portfolio adjustments too. On the news side: Alpaca's fresh off a $435M raise between equity and debt, and their CEO's joining today, perfect timing given everyone's watching where that capital goes next. NVDA's onchain pool on Robinhood Chain just crossed $3.5M in daily volume too. Meme and RWA barbell? Great show today, the line-up is in: 1:00PM ET Meredith Hannon - @WisdomTreePrime 2:00PM ET @iyoshyoshi - @AlpacaHQ 2:30PM ET @PunterJeff - @Strive See you on the show.
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Andre Cronje says a lot of "DeFi" now hides an off-chain counterparty behind a smart-contract UI. "There's a disconnect between what's being presented and what it actually is. That's where the risk comes in."
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"IPO markets are broken. Onchain price discovery is not." Andy on what the CXMT case actually demonstrates: "CXMT IPO priced at $1.28/share. Hyperliquid pre-IPO perp trading at 6.25x that. SpaceX already proved the pattern, the public listing teleported to the Hyperliquid perp price." "Chinese IPO market is just the fullest expression of the US insider-underpricing dynamic. Onchain price discovery works. IPO market pricing doesn't. At some point, they're not gonna be able to get away with this anymore." "This is a big win for Hyperliquid, and another showing as to how broken global IPO markets are just broken."
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Solana's official account posted the data. Rob and Andy split on what it means: @andyyy: "This is the thesis right here. Solana is not just a meme coin chain thesis. Tokenized stocks can clearly keep trading on weekends and keep the speculation going. This is the Solana thesis going forward." "There is no other thesis for Solana going forward, other than it was always touted to us as the onchain NASDAQ." @robbieklages: "I don't believe any of that. Robinhood Chain is that. I'm betting Robinhood is the next Solana. They have meme coins, they have much greater market penetration in the equities market." "Their mechanism for tokenization just-in-time tokenization on demand is incredibly thoughtful. Drip-drip-drip of tokenized equities coming out of the Robinhood brokerage onto Robinhood Chain." "Robinhood Chain's success hurts Solana more than it helps Ethereum. Solana is garnering for market share in the same tokenized equities trading category."
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