When
@mudithj and I met
@gabepereyra, we were expecting just another vanilla intro call and instead had the best yarn about research, the state of LLMs, and where intelligence is actually heading. It's rare to meet a founder this deep in the weeds who's also building for one of the most important verticals in this new age of intelligence
So it was awesome to sit down with Gabe for an extended discussion on what it take to build agents that can reliably complete work over hours, days, or even longer?
We talked about why agents today struggle with search and long context windows and how techniques like KV-cache compaction, synthetic data, and continual learning could help.
0:00 Introduction
0:36 Getting legal agents to review the whole data room
2:08 Data rooms larger than any context window
5:28 How far open-source models can go
7:58 Where specialist models fit in legal AI
10:59 Training legal models when client data is off-limits
13:06 Teaching a model how a law firm works
13:59 What belongs in context vs. model weights
15:36 From firm-wide AI to a model for every lawyer
18:37 What training adds beyond retrieving the right cases
20:26 Why context windows have plateaued
24:01 How models could learn continuously on the job
26:12 Can AI recursively improve AI research?
27:07 Research agents can run experiments but not choose them
30:00 Why open-ended research is hard to train
33:47 Why deployment, not intelligence, is the bottleneck
35:08 The cost of frontier intelligence
36:59 Different neolabs, different paths to intelligence
39:26 Using open datasets to compare research methods
41:13 Conclusion