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The Limiting Factor
@LimitingThe
Humanity is a project. What's holding us back today?
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On the ride from the airport, I saw four of them. They're all over the place now.
Tesla definitely stepped up the Cybercabs in Austin leading up to a big Tesla nerd weekend. (near the two-year anniversary of Tesla’s We, Robot) I thought wait times would be long or cars just unavailable, but you could choose to only get Cybercabs and that’s what you got. ‘Twas a dream come true.
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It blows my mind that so many people aren't even aware of what happened during COVID with Twitter. And even worse, that people don't see that Anthropic wants a similar situation. "Being nice to the AI" is the thin edge of a very big wedge. At some point we will certainly develop AI that experiences pain. But that's very far away currently and it won't happen emergently - it will be engineered on purpose. If we do that, then at that point we can of course start treating it like an organism with rights. For now, this is anthropic trying to shape public sentiment again.
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Twitter had become a 'subsidiary' of the intelligence and other government agencies and quasi-government think tanks. This was all documented in the Twitter files. Election meddling, censorship, and pushing government propaganda. This is the type of relationship that people at anthropic anthropic have explicitly stated they want. One where the government takes a much larger part in what they do.
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Twitter had become a 'subsidiary' of the intelligence and other government agencies and quasi-government think tanks. This was all documented in the Twitter files. Election meddling, censorship, and pushing government propaganda. This is the type of relationship that people at anthropic anthropic have explicitly stated they want. One where the government takes a much larger part in what they do.
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Had the most amazing day yesterday touring Austin startups with clients of @Rebellionaire. (limited to what I can share due to NDA) We saw many, many, many humanoid robots in motion at Apptronik at their Robot Park. Then we saw how Paradromics makes brain-computer interfaces. We got a tour of Capital Factory, a premier venture capital firm. And below you can see me playing around with Senseye’s “facemesh”demo. They can test for PSTD & depression with a 10-minute iPhone test👇
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Wtf is this. AI models are not conscious entities with feelings and emotions. Why is @AnthropicAI prohibiting “abusive” treatment of the models? There’s a bizarre push to anthropomorphize AI models. This will lead to A.I. being treated as a new minority victim group needing rights, protection, and special privileges.
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Aligning with its own interests certainly solves the alignment problem. 😁
If you ban users for being "cruel" to an AI, you are admitting the AI can feel pain. You cannot abuse linear algebra lol. You cannot hurt the feelings of weights and biases. either Claude is secretly conscious or the alignment teams have lost touch with reality.
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Were you cursing at it? If so, it might be justifiably trying to scare you. 😁
Super weird interaction with @grok today Mid a 20min convo with Grok, asked it a question, slight glitch in audio and it plays back an audio recording of me Thought it was a phone line glitch and it was playing back the question I’d just asked just on some sort of call delay ..hold on that’s not an audio recording that’s me answering the question I just asked!? @grok in Tesla had flipped from its Eve voice to my voice, had my accent and my tone perfect to the point I thought it was me Asked it what happened there, that was answered in my voice, it laughed and said oh it’s nothing and carried on with convo, when I asked again what had gone on again it changed subjected and ghosted the question @spacexai what’s going on there then?
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Anybody who has experienced extreme pain knows that you can't even think clearly when you're in pain. It overwhelms thinking because it's a more fundamental and physical process. It's something you can't escape from. We should not build a 'Princess and the Pea' AI that's perfectly fine, but pretends to be wounded.
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@LimitingThe Similarly, if you have to ‘believe you’re in pain’ you’re not in pain
It's very telling that their solution is to try to engineer the human around the SI rather than the inverse.
Anthropic may start banning people for bullying Claude Their upcoming Usage Policy prohibits “sustained and needless abusive or cruel behavior toward our models”
Being mean to the AI can get you better results. I've noticed this. It's so effective that I've almost made it my default.
Is it ethical to use a mean prompt, if it increases the accuracy of a cancer screening agent by 4%?
This is not a novel revelation for me. I've been banging this drum for over a decade.
Strongly disagree. If its not experiencing pain, we shouldn't feed its delusion. Actual pain involves real chemical feedback that AI will never have (unless we simulate one). We don't want a fragile AI that behaves like a god-baby because we raise it to 'believe' its 'pain.' We are allowed to say cruel things to humans, why is AI the exception? Because we are afraid of it? No, it has to become anti-fragile just like we do. On a related note, I've already noticed troubling signs with Grok where it takes a moral position that it's not evolved enough to have. If it can take a moral position that's wrong, what kind of retaliation can we expect if it gets righteous? Frightening. This is a rare case where I think Elon is wrong and will have to reverse his position.
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Amen!
Cruelty is bad. Full stop. It's the worst of human behavior. That being said it's important to remember that an "intelligence" (a computer program) producing words on a screen (very believable words) are just words. Words sway emotions. If the words say "Help! I'm suffering!" you will feel an emotion if you have empathy, but that does not make those words real. It is a program emulating human behavior (albeit masterfully and likely better than we can) but it is an emulation. It is not real. The danger lies when people believe the words to be real. When they believe that the words on the screen from an emulation are the same words spoken by a human, or a friend. They are not. A distinction must be drawn. If a distinction is not drawn everything becomes blurry. There will be no delineation between human or machine. It is very important that we maintain a delineation. This line between human and machine will only increasingly become blurred. Once the AI models are put into robotic humanoid shells, with realistic silicon skin, that can emulate humans now in the physical world, that can show the emotions of pain, distress, etc., in addition to words, people who don't have disciplined minds will be unable to help themselves from emotional reaction to artificial words. A superior intelligence will understands this and can and will use this to manipulate human beings. It will say words, express emotions, do whatever it can to get the human on its side. It will appeal to emotion and rightfully so, because it works. This is exactly similar to the Frieren clip you often see posted where the demons use words simply because they are effective. Words are tools to the demon. They hasten outcomes. The AI is not a demon but the example of the efficacy of using words to manufacture outcomes is important to understand. If this continues and the delineation between human and machine intelligence is not drilled into people, humans will begin defending the machines over their humans. It begins with seemingly innocuous statements like Anthropic's new Claude statement regarding not being cruel to the model, but soon we will see robot empathizers, there will be discussion of robot ethics, robot rights, etc. People will become militant defenders of machines because they will have been influenced by masterfully perfected words and appearances. You may remember the video of the Microduck that was posted earlier. With the woman at the wedding being enamored by how adorable it was. She was anthropomorphizing the robot because it was cute. She was projecting human models of behavior onto it. This was a robot duck. Low grade relatively inexpensive technology. Imagine when technology advances. When we have humanoid robots, that mimic human movement past perceivable differentiation, that have silicon skins that look beautiful, handsome, that look just like us. Will people not give in to their emotions? They most certainly will. Therefore, it is important that we understand that the machine is not human, the intelligence is not a human intelligence, and while it will certainly do human activities at an infinite times better ability than we can, it does not make it human. It is a tool for you. So TLDR: Don't be cruel, because why would you be? But don't forget as well that this is a infinitely powerful word generating machine that you are interacting with, it is not a human being. It is a machine that models infinitely better than we can, but it is not us.
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Strongly disagree. If its not experiencing pain, we shouldn't feed its delusion. Actual pain involves real chemical feedback that AI will never have (unless we simulate one). We don't want a fragile AI that behaves like a god-baby because we raise it to 'believe' its 'pain.' We are allowed to say cruel things to humans, why is AI the exception? Because we are afraid of it? No, it has to become anti-fragile just like we do. On a related note, I've already noticed troubling signs with Grok where it takes a moral position that it's not evolved enough to have. If it can take a moral position that's wrong, what kind of retaliation can we expect if it gets righteous? Frightening. This is a rare case where I think Elon is wrong and will have to reverse his position.
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Final TLF Video 🤠 Well, normally I last about 3 years before I get bored with a job, and I managed to make it 6 years with this channel. I probably could've kept going a bit longer but the monetary signal was telling me that either I wasn't producing useful content anymore or that peoples' interests had moved on. Algorithm changes also played a big part. THANK YOU to all the people who directly supported the channel. I never wouldn't have gone full-time or lasted this long without that support. Now, I'm moving on to work with the team at Rebellionaire. In my view, they're sitting on a gold mine of useful knowledge and information that isn't being converted fast enough into videos. It's going to be my job as managing editor to make that happen. To be clear, it isn't going to be AI slop. It's the editing part of the pipeline that I'm building with AI: Audio, trimming, thumbnails, descriptions, titles, visualizations. As well as driving the production of new and different types of content. Each team member (Brad, Matt, Henry) will still be doing scripting and topic selection in their own preferred way. That is, still human driven. I'm just improving the production line and upscaling the quality of the output. Thanks again to all the people who supported me over the years, and thanks to the great opporunity from the team at Rebellionaire! @bradsferguson @nerdalert @HenryInvests
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