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Larry Goldberg
@TeslaLarry
Managing Partner, LumaSenti. Entrepreneur, co-inventor/co-author of the book “The Decision Model”.
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Orbital Data Center cost takes by Street analysts making the rounds: Wood Mac ~$170B/GW, BofA $160B to 180B, Futurum ~$72B (infrastructure alone), BNP >$100B just for launch to loft 1 GW. This is all the same spreadsheet genre that “proved” Starlink couldn’t work in comparison to classical Data Centers at $40B-$60 on the ground. However, we now know that Starlink worked because: (a) SpaceX’s real Falcon 9 cost was nowhere near list price, and (b) V2/V3 satellites blew past the bandwidth per satellite that those early models assumed. Starlink satellites kept outrunning the forecast and internal launch costs ran way below analysts estimates. AI satellites will rhyme. Gen-1 is what the cost models price. Gen-2 and Gen-3 (better chips, power, and thermal per kg) are where we once again pull away from the spreadsheet. Starship does the launch cost side slide in short order. @Mach33 is the most comprehensive analysis on Data Centers in the sky. Here are their estimates: Starship AI launches, with booster reuse and ship expendable cost at ~$300/kg. That would give us: ~$46B per GW for SpaceX, then toward ~$24B/GW over the next decade with Ship reuse. Bull case with full reuse and better chips goes lower. In summary: actual cost likely to start at $46B per GW (and the falling to half that) vs $160B+ headlines from "analysts". Add to that less permitting delays and less political pushback than a GW on the ground. Starlink redux. Bears beware.
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What's REALLY crazy is that next week's Starship (lifting the equivalent of 10 Falcon launches to space) is really only carrying about half of what it will be launching once it reaches production!
News...news...news...with Herbert
Two vehicles? Seriously... Look we all understand its too late. But why add insult to injury with too little.
Échange constructif ce soir avec @elonmusk autour du dispositif Full Self-Driving (FSD) de Tesla. Depuis plusieurs mois, les autorités françaises travaillent étroitement avec @Tesla sur les adaptations techniques qui permettront à la France de soutenir son homologation, qui sera décidée au niveau européen dans les prochaines semaines. Avec la mise à disposition de deux véhicules équipés de FSD par Tesla, nous entrons désormais dans une nouvelle étape : celle des essais sur route.
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It begins...
⚡ 𝑮𝑹𝑶𝑲 𝑩𝑶𝑻 𝑬𝑿𝑷𝑳𝑶𝑫𝑬𝑺. 𝑪𝒀𝑩𝑬𝑹𝑪𝑨𝑩 𝑨𝑹𝑹𝑰𝑽𝑬𝑺. @TeslaLarry is back on OTH, and we go deep on two shifts that could reshape how we use AI and how we move. > Why Grok Bot became Larry’s go-to AI agent > Why he gave up Claude, Manus and other agent setups > Why the next AI breakthrough may be at the application layer > Cybercab isn’t really targeting Uber and Waymo > Also, Tesla’s real target could actually be private car ownership itself (I'm betting on it too!) And we get into X Money, SpaceXAI, Cursor, Cognition, Starbase Louisiana and Starlink V3. ⚡So much covered here in this episode!👇🏽
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A couple of years ago, my wife Jill and I spent about 3 months in Europe, of which the first six weeks was spent in the beautiful Luberon Valley of Provence in a hilltop village, where she did an Art Residency. This resulted in a body of work, being featured by the unique Gallery at Red Springs Artspace.
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True story. Happened this morning. My wife: "I need you to help me move my book from this lousy app I've been using to just plain MS Word because the app is useless. And it looks like I've lost some chapters, I need you to find them" Me: "Groan!" (Actually, silently. I know what is safe and what is not!) Suddenly, IDEA💡...."tell you what", says I, "we'll buy you a Grok Bot sub, and she can help you" (you see what I did there?) Anyway, less than an hour later, Grok Bot had definitively ended my PC support career. And had "found" the missing chapters. Completed the conversion. And pointed out some repeated passages in the text. It's amazing what Grok Bot intuits. Really. Now I'm looking for a new job. Just kidding.
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I f'ing LOVE these guys!!!!!!
we shipped a lot of improvements to grok @bot last week! quick recap:
As serious as it sounds when we say that Cybercab is likely to ruin Uber and Waymo (never mind Lyft, and a raft of other autonomous wannabes), the truth is that isn't the target of the Cybercab product. No. The target is wayyyyy bigger. The target is the entire personal transport market. At a cost of 40c per mile, Cybercab threatens that entire category. Which means that the demand is going to be bonkers. And some temporary friction from all the localities trying to halt it is going to die the same death that the restrictions on Uber evenutally died. No, Tesla are NOT going to charge $4 per mile. No they are not going to put steering wheels in Cybercabs. They are going to relentlessly re-arrange the world of personal transport. 1 Cybercab, or 100, or 1000, 10000, 100000, 1000000 or many. many millions, at a time -- over time.
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Tesla Cybercab is starting to REALLY ramp boys and girls. The VINs insinuate that Tesla has produced ~2,500 Cybercabs thus far. As Tesla continues to ramp production, the race is officially on to turn on as many geofenced locations - fully scaled - to deploy these vehicles ASAP. By the end of the year, Tesla's weekly production runrate will likely be somewhere between 1,000 to 2,000 - which on the high side is about 100,000 units per year. Roughly 1/10th of Model Y's production call it. Here's the big issue - 100k units is roughly 15% of Uber's TOTAL active ride share fleet in the US. Tesla would be manufacturing this PER YEAR, AT A MINIMUM, STARTING IN DECEMBER OF 2026. That means that if Tesla were to ramp up Cybercab to December 2026 levels and STOP improving, Tesla would manufacture Uber's entire US active fleet IN ABOUT 6 YEARS, eating away 15% of Uber's rideshare revenue in the US every single year, which by year 2 would render Uber effectively unprofitable... AND ACCELERATING. Now by default, this means that Tesla would need to begin to flood - AT THE BARE MINIMUM - about 15% of metro area populations by the end of 2027, and utterly destroy Uber's business model while they are at it. Which would mean Uber stock collapsing, and tens of thousands of Uber drivers rendered obsolete due to their inability to compete on price, because the cost per mile of Cybercab will be ~$0.40, which is more than 4x cheaper than Uber - EVERY. SINGLE. YEAR. The question becomes - how likely is it that Uber just takes this and allows it to happen? How much will they lobby government to slow it down? (hint hint they already are). What will this do to Waymo? Taxi networks? Legacy auto as people stop buying their dumb cars? Accident lawyers as safety profiles get far far far better because driverless cars are FAR safer? On the flip side, what infrastructure will Tesla need to build for charging & cleaning? How much of that can they absorb with their current infrastructure? How will regulations play out national or state by state to allow Tesla to have a smooth ramp without creating too much disruption? Anything less than this means Tesla would have to artificially slow down production of the Cybercab line, which at a bare minimum would jeopardize supplier contracts. If you told a network of suppliers you're gonna order X number of parts over X number of months, but you don't, that puts the supplier at risk and leaves them holding the bag. That's a big no-no. The alternative is building the Cybercabs and letting them sit doing nothing in parking lots. Does that make sense to do when: a) you are massively ramping up compute efforts to train FSD/Optimus which is extremely capital intensive in an age where the cost of capital is going up as the ROI for AI continues to increase b) are in the process of starting production of Optimus with an entirely new production line and ambitions for tens of millions of units in the coming years and c) are about to embark on an INSANE joint venture with SpaceX with Terafab which is ASTRONOMICALLY expensive? Or - hear me out... YOU PUT A STEERING WHEEL AND PEDALS IN THEM AND SELL THEM TO THE PUBLIC SO THAT YOU MITIGATE THIS RISK BY 100% AND YOU DOMINATE LITERALLY EVERYTHING AND NO ONE CAN STOP YOU BECAUSE IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO SELL CARS WITH STEERING WHEEL AND PEDALS. WOW WHAT A NOVEL IDEA. $TSLA
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Does everyone see what is the difference between the Louisana project and ALL the others?
We need to be able to share Grok Bots across teams...
How to share your Grok @Bot design with others
Louisiana - where man's journey to the cosmos is about to begin!
SpaceX’s Louisiana Spaceport Could Be a Much Bigger Deal Than It Looks 🚀 @TeslaLarry thinks this could eventually become one of the biggest space bases in the world, and the reason is pretty simple: SpaceX is going to need a LOT more launch capacity. Future Moon and Mars missions could require multiple refueling launches for every spacecraft actually heading into deep space. That means more pads, more launches, and eventually a launch cadence that sounds crazy by today’s standards. So Louisiana isn’t just about launching more Starlink satellites. It’s about building enough infrastructure to make Moon and Mars missions routine instead of rare. $SPCX
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What regulatory capture will buy you!
that is the office of a privately held midwest software company
In my 80 years I cannot remember a week as consequential. And Jessie hasn't even mentioned Starbase Louisiana, the new American center.
Falcon launched its last mission out of Cape Canaveral, completed 37 flights of a single booster, Ship 40 has been picked up out of the ocean, and Super Heavy completed a 33 engine static fire in preparation for Flight 14 - pretty good week i’d say!
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Warren is on target here. Another contender could - should - be Meta, but they seem to have lost the plot after what was (now eons ago, it seems) a strong start.
Chamath says all the AI companies will compete on all fronts. He's wrong. The model companies are way behind on chips and data centers. Models are an intensively competitive business with questionable moats and software itself is not supply constrained. Margins will be hard to sustain. Chips, hardware and hyperscalers are competitive, but demand is growing faster than supply from the bottom of the supply chain all the way up through compute. 3 companies have a huge advantage over all the rest: Nvidia - the 800 pound gorilla of chips with a growing presence in open source models. Biggest thing everyone missed - Nvidia grew its market share. 👀 Google - The biggest hyperscaler with the biggest history of custom hardware TPUs etc., a frontier model, a massive customer base and monster data flywheels. SpaceX - Fast growing cost efficient hyperscaler with a frontier model, super fast innovation, reasonable customer base (X, Cursor), the best path to long term AI compute beyond Earth, and soon to have its own fab They won't be the only winners but they are the most likely to win big.
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Had an occurence of this exact experience up in the mountains of North Carolina last fall. Plenty of one lane bridges up there, and 14.3.5 handled them in exactly the same way. Had an occurence today in the local village of the car (14.3.8) obeying an officer's hand gestures during a crowded, festival like atmosphere.
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Bruh. Holy shit. This legit blew my mind. I wasn’t expecting to be able to capture this on video much less not have to disengage. @aelluswamy you genius you! 💪💪💪
My return to office:
What was the key to Larry @TeslaLarry Goldberg's investment journey Nvidia and SpaceX are forming a critical partnership. What does it mean Should Robotaxi charge market price or $1 a mile
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I wax eloquent ... or at least verbose!
What was the key to Larry @TeslaLarry Goldberg's investment journey Nvidia and SpaceX are forming a critical partnership. What does it mean Should Robotaxi charge market price or $1 a mile
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Chuck gallantly admits his error here. I can't tell you how many times I've heard someone say why FSD can't work 100%!
As promised, here is my explanation of why thin horizontal lines are such an intractable problem. tbh this might be the final "show stopper" issue for Tela to get FSD working near 100%. LMK what you think.
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