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Talking Tokens Podcast
@_TalkingTokens
Award-nominated host @JacqMelinek interviews the most consequential leaders in onchain finance, on the record. Twice a week. Brought to you by @StrataMedia_
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Today's episode with @jchervinsky, CEO of @HyperliquidPC, dives into: - How perps are expanding beyond crypto and into traditional markets - What it takes for regulated onchain markets to reach the U.S. - Why 24/7 trading isn't the answer for every traditional market TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Jake Chervinsky and Hyperliquid Policy Center 02:37 Why Jake believes in Hyperliquid 05:03 What makes Hyperliquid different 06:21 Taking perpetual futures beyond crypto 09:39 Perpetual futures explained 11:25 What 24/7 markets reveal about price discovery 13:01 Why pricing doesn't stop when markets close 14:08 Should every market trade 24/7? 16:01 Why oil could be the next market for perpetual futures 18:44 Who would use oil perpetuals? 19:18 What Hyperliquid could change about financial markets 21:00 Bringing regulated perpetual futures to the U.S. Watch below or on X:
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The Clarity Act failed to advance in the Senate after receiving just 49 YES votes. Two months ago, Brett Redfearn (@Observatory13), President of @Securitize and former SEC Director of Trading and Markets, told us why responsible building matters even more in a moment like this.
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INTRODUCING: Convergence. Our new institutional series alongside the @therollupco , presented by @wisdomtreeprime Every month, we're diving into the most timely topics across the convergence of DeFi & TradFi, tokenization and what's coming next. Catch @wbpeck Head of Digital Assets of @wisdomtreeprime for the series debut at 1:30PM ET
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INTRODUCING: Convergence. We've all heard it before. The word, the implications, the bridge between TradFi and DeFi. And everyone is watching it closely. That's why we launched this institutionally-focused joint product on StrataMedia's @TokenRelations x @_TalkingTokens alongside @therollupco, and presented by WisdomTree. Want to know what's actually happening behind the scenes? Every month, we're diving into the most timely topics across the convergence of DeFi & TradFi, tokenization and what's coming next. The Convergence debut features original takes from @WisdomTreePrime Head of Digital Assets, Will Peck (@wbpeck). Check it out below and hope you all enjoy!
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Retail and institutional markets don't have to exist in separate worlds. Giving retail clients access to institutional flow can open the door to more sophisticated strategies, while the two sides can also complement each other depending on market conditions. One interesting point from my conversation with @NicolaWhite444, VP of Institutional at @RobinhoodApp, was how retail can be risk-off while institutions are risk-on, creating a natural interplay between the two.
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Really enjoyed this interview! Thanks for having me 🤝
Today's @Solana Sessions episode with @AndreaMYellie, co-founder and CEO of @Beezie, dives into: - How gamification and tokenization are changing the way consumers discover and buy collectibles - Her founder journey and what it took for its platform to surpass $200M in volume - The platform’s new partnership with The Luxury Closet and more TIMESTAMPS: 00:10 Andrea journey from collector to founder 02:26 How shopping behavior is changing 03:20 How Beezie's digital claw machine works 05:25 Why trading cards found product-market fit 06:49 Building through doubt as a founder 07:51 What drove Beezie's growth 08:51 Growing to $200M in volume and $100M in revenue 11:28 User growth and retention 12:35 Expanding beyond crypto-native collectors 13:03 Beezie's move into luxury 14:48 How the luxury experience works 15:49 Vaulting and securing physical assets 16:17 Authenticating luxury goods 17:16 Why Beezie is selling “the chase” 18:14 The future of gamified commerce 19:19 What Beezie learned from sneakers 20:17 What's next for tokenized commerce 21:07 Bringing luxury buyers onchain 23:25 Building trust through authentication 27:23 What traditional collectibles markets get wrong 28:46 Why onchain transparency matters 29:36 Who is the future Beezie customer? 30:10 Andrea's advice for founders 30:38 Why Beezie chose Solana Watch below or on X:
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.@SamBroner's vision for stablecoins is a lot like today's card networks. Different issuers. Different products. One system that makes them work together. The missing piece? Clearing infrastructure between stablecoins.
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Crypto doesn't come with a one-size-fits-all playbook. Stay curious, read a lot and keep an open mind. Not everything in crypto is going to fit neatly into the TradFi framework, and trying to force it into one may mean missing what makes the space different. That was one of the key takeaways from my conversation with @NicolaWhite444, VP of Institutional at @RobinhoodApp.
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While much of crypto was chasing tokens that went up, @SamBroner, CEO of @bettermoney_co, was focused on something much less flashy: stablecoins. His thesis: build the infrastructure that makes it easy to move from one stablecoin to another.
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Robinhood Chain has quickly emerged as one of the fastest-growing blockchains, with roughly 461,000 daily active users and $8.1 million in daily fees. @StrataMedia_ Institutional Research Analyst @ahbeaudry joins @jacqmelinek to discuss how Stock Tokens have fueled @RobinhoodApp Chain's explosive growth and why these assets have created unusual new trading dynamics. TIMESTAMPS 00:10 The Stock Token Saga and New StrataMedia Research 01:12 Why Robinhood Chain Is Growing So Fast 03:20 How Robinhood Stock Tokens Work 04:55 The Risks Behind Wrapped Stock Tokens 06:11 Why Stock Tokens Are Getting Attention 06:52 When Memecoins Meet Tokenized Stocks 07:58 How a Stock Token Traded 100%+ Above Its Underlying 09:17 The Risks for Companies and Investors 10:51 The Problem With 24/7 Stock Token Trading 12:15 Wrapped vs. Issuer-Led Tokenization 13:17 Is the Robinhood Chain Boom Ending? 13:33 Why Alex Thinks the Market Could Cool Down 15:16 What Comes Next Watch below or on X:
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.@AndrewMcMarkets doesn't see tokenization as replacing the financial system. He sees it as an upgrade. The bigger opportunity isn't just putting assets onchain. It's making them programmable, more useful and giving users greater control.
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.@e_woodford, Founder and CEO of @zerohashx, says crypto is still incredibly fragmented. USDC can exist across roughly 40 different blockchains, creating unnecessary complexity. His bullish take: the industry has grown despite that friction. Solve the usability problem, and the opportunity gets much bigger.
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.@e_woodford's, founder and CEO of @zerohashx, vision for blockchain adoption isn't about making billions of people understand the technology. It's about abstracting the complexity away so they can simply use it. The goal: serve billions of people through infrastructure they barely notice.
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.@e_woodford, Founder and CEO of @zerohashx, is increasingly bullish on on-chain lending through vaults. His reasoning: as we move toward T0 and atomic settlement, the traditional lending model may have to change.
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.@e_woodford, founder and CEO of @zerohashx, had opportunities to sell the company, including interest from Mastercard. He chose to keep building. His focus: creating more value for partners rather than taking the exit.
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Tokenizing an asset is only the beginning. @AndrewMcMarkets says the real unlock is making that asset programmable and useful. Collateral. Loans. Lending. Additional revenue. That's where tokenization gets interesting.
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.@e_woodford, Founder and CEO of @zerohashx, says one of the biggest lessons from working with financial institutions is that trust comes first. The goal isn't to ask banks to take more risk to innovate. It's to show them they can innovate without trading off risk.
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Today’s episode with @AndrewMcMarkets, head of institutional and market developmenat @Chainlink, dives into: - Why retail brokers are the key unlock for tokenization adoption - How retail brokers that aren't offering tokenized assets by 2030 could be left behind - What DTCC's move into tokenized securities could mean for TradFi-DeFi convergence TIMESTAMPS: 01:56 How Andrew defines tokenization 02:32 How the meaning of tokenization has changed 03:06 What “institutional” means at Chainlink 04:11 How institutional adoption changed in 2026 05:48 How banks are changing their view of digital assets 07:19 Chainlink's evolution beyond oracles 08:37 How Chainlink positions itself with financial institutions 09:19 Institutional demand behind the scenes 10:30 How long institutional partnerships take 11:59 Which financial firms are moving fastest? 13:06 Will every retail broker offer tokenized assets? 13:32 How early is tokenization today? 14:13 Could public equities move fully onchain? 15:07 Could stocks eventually function like cash? 15:39 Rebuilding financial workflows with blockchain 17:15 Why institutions may have no choice but to follow 18:32 Which tokenized asset category breaks out next? 19:41 Why retail matters as much as institutions 22:26 Why Wall Street is increasingly interested in DeFi 24:09 What's driving institutions toward DeFi 24:54 Why putting assets onchain isn't enough 25:54 What Chainlink's institutional partnerships reveal 27:43 Do institutions trust crypto more now? 28:48 Why crypto prices matter less to institutions 29:37 How TradFi and DeFi could converge 30:07 What DTCC tokenization could unlock 31:35 Chainlink as financial infrastructure 32:31 The next catalyst for tokenization 33:29 From crypto skeptic to blockchain believer 35:23 Why collateral could be the next major unlock 36:13 Andrew's advice Watch below or on X:
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Today’s episode with @PaulFrambot, cofounder and CEO of @Morpho, dives into: - What it takes to build a global, open credit network - How the arrival of real distribution changed the calculus for institutions - Why he thinks the onchain credit market will balloon from $30B to $200T TIMESTAMPS: 00:47 The Evolution of On-Chain DeFi Lending 02:15 Building Morpho: Challenges and Philosophy 04:07 Early DeFi Traction and Growth Strategies 05:59 Morpho: Positioning as an Open Credit Network 07:46 Vetting Ecosystem Builders and Developers 09:47 Robinhood Earn Partnership & Mainstream Adoption 15:07 Institutional vs. Retail Strategies 16:40 The Apollo Asset Management Partnership 17:35 How Institutions Evaluate DeFi Risks 19:48 Navigating SEC Regulation and Compliance 27:02 Security Strategies: Addressing Lazarus Group Threats 31:56 Morpho’s Future Roadmap & 5-Year Vision 37:01 Core Principles for Thriving in the Crypto Industry Watch below or on X:
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