My biggest takeaways from
@hectorserrranoo, Head of Content at
@WisprFlow:
1. Paid UGC is one of the highest-alpha opportunities for B2B SaaS right now. Paid ads are nothing new, but Hector has discovered there’s still a huge opportunity in doing them differently. E-com brands have long hired creators to produce ads, compensating them based on performance. Now platforms like
@TrybeUGC allow B2B SaaS companies to do the same. Hector calls it “the TikTok Shop method, but for Meta Ads.” Wispr Flow was one of the first companies to hop on, and paid is now one of its main growth pillars.
2. Turn on paid early, but only after PMF. Hector credits Wispr Flow’s growth primarily to the quality of the product. “There’s really no hack besides having a good product.” But once you have organic pull, don’t wait to start paid UGC. Hector argues that paid is the fastest way to learn whether your messaging lands and whether cold traffic converts.
3. The key is to incentivize creators by giving them a % of GMV or ad spend. Wispr Flow pays its creators a percentage of the spend behind their ads. E-com brands pay a percentage of GMV. Earnings are also uncapped, so some of Wispr Flow’s creators make over $13,000 a month. “They’re making more money than full-time influencers.”
4. A “smart retainer” keeps new creators around long enough to get good. Pure commission is risky early for new creators, since their initial ads won’t perform well, so Wispr Flow sets a floor. Hit a quota of, say, 25 videos and you’re guaranteed $1,500. If your commissions only reach $500, they top you up by $1,000. If they reach $3,000, you keep the commissions and the retainer doesn’t apply. Three or four months in, the best creators break out and earn purely on commission.
5. Recruit your first creators off-platform, by hand. A new brand may struggle to attract great creators, so Hector manually searches Instagram for niche keywords (“tech,” “nine-to-five,” “lawyer,” “doctor”), then searches the follower lists of creators he likes, “because typically good creators know other good creators.” He sends 150 to 250 targeted DMs over a week, with no mass-messaging software, and usually lands five or six really good creators.
6. Copycat ads die fast, so push every creator to experiment. Creators can see which ads get the most spend, and the instinct is to copy them. Meta’s Andromeda system scans each ad’s transcript, frames, and on-screen text, and groups ads that are more than 60% similar, so lookalikes fatigue quickly. Hector reminds creators that the top earners got there by experimenting.
7. Recruit niche creators to target your ICPs. Each creator should speak to a different audience you want to target. Wispr’s creators range from moms, lawyers, engineers, and sales reps to a 45-year-old founder of an eight-figure e-commerce business. People “mistake UGC for thinking it’s just college kids making content,” but a dev tool’s user is probably an older technical person. For those audiences, “the more boring and the uglier the ads are, the better they will perform.”
8. You need two people to run a paid-UGC program: a creative lead and a media buyer. Hector runs the creator side: comms, concepts, and approving videos. Eric, the media buyer, lives in Meta Ads Manager. For the creator role, look for an online following, not a resume. Hector had a 2.5 GPA. Tobin, Wispr Flow’s early marketing intern, had a 4.0 from Waterloo. Both became great marketers. Hector’s bar is someone hardworking and talented who has grown an account from zero to 10,000 or 15,000 followers, ideally on Instagram.
9. “The best marketers are allergic to AI.” Hector isn’t against automation behind the scenes. His point is about the final output people see. Even the top AI labs use teams of humans to produce their videos and designs. For an AI company like Wispr Flow, AI influencers and AI-generated static ads would land badly and look off. Matt, Wispr Flow’s former head of growth, runs more automations than anyone Hector knows, but “that last 10% that’s the most important always has a human on the endpoint.”
10. Develop young talent like a soccer academy. Hector played youth soccer in Spain and the U.S. before Division I, and he wants startups to copy the model: scout young talent, give them money and room to experiment, let them fail, and coach them until they become A players. His first seven months at Wispr were “all over the place,” and it took about a year to feel comfortable. “A 30- or 40-year-old founder doesn’t understand what an 18-year-old kid who’s in these Discord chats” sees every day, and the people you develop stay loyal.
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