My first conversation with Bryon Hargis (
@hargsb), Cofounder and CEO of
@Castelion. This is a special edition of our show recorded at
@reindsummit. Since then, Castelion has announced a $1 billion Series C funding valuing the company at $13 billion making it one of the most valuable defense technology companies in the ecosystem.
What we cover:
- Why Bryon sold his SpaceX stock to bootstrap Castelion and bet two-thirds of his savings on the mission.
- Why affordable, mass-produced hypersonic missiles are central to his vision of American deterrence.
- Building Blackbeard, winning the first Navy order, and scaling production to thousands of missiles a year.
- The SpaceX lessons behind faster hardware development: rapid testing, questioning convention, and knowing when to change course.
- Hiring for mission over money and why company culture is built one person at a time.
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
01:00 Bootstrapping with SpaceX stock and crypto mining
07:00 Why Bryon started a defense company
11:00 Building deterrence and landing the first Navy order
14:00 Scaling missile manufacturing in New Mexico
18:00 Meet Blackbeard: Castelion’s hypersonic missile
20:00 Hypersonic vs. ballistic vs. cruise missiles
23:00 Golden Dome and the future of missile defense
25:00 How SpaceX enables America’s national security
27:00 Elon Musk, ambitious deadlines, and moving faster
30:00 Why rapid testing beats over-engineering
33:00 Lessons from SpaceX: Question convention, follow the data
38:00 Hiring for the mission and building company culture
45:00 Growing as a founder and being willing to be wrong
Congrats to friends of the show
@a16z @davidu @TheAmbitionCap @lacostejonathan and others including
@lightspeedvp @AltimeterCap @generalcatalyst
Special thanks to
@falondonohue @austinbishop @aphysicist for hosting
@WeThe_Builders in Detroit