That’s it? Not that bright? I was bright enough to watch you admit you had no evidence for any of the claims you make—and still don’t. I was bright enough to watch you, with your low IQ, double down on the steakhouse and double down on claims I knew and had evidence were false. I still have way more to present while you hang yourself with your words. Why do you think I went so easy on you? Lol. You were a babbling mess and couldn’t wait to double down on your own idiocy. I actually couldn't believe my luck. If all evidence is fabricated, why shouldn’t we question yours, which is often shown without dates and times and with no sources? You got caught, Owens. It was going to happen sooner or later. It just happened sooner rather than later.If you have proof Erika wasn’t at home with Charlie on the 8th, let’s see it. Not “questions”—actual proof, Owens. Like I showed. You don’t have any, though, because we both know she was.“Don’t believe your lying eyes,” us the proof she wasn’t there, Owens, and was somewhere else. SHOW US! This is where you choke, because you can’t. Just "Questions" lol

If it feels to you like narrative control has been lost by conspiracy side of the Owens madness it's because it has. The infighting I predicted has happened and will get worse as all the women turn on each other. I enjoy doing this to you and will never tire of it.

Then what's this? Some other woman who sounds like Erika taking this pic from their house in the exact same setting? Charlie have lots of those women just hanging around did he? "Don't believe your lying eyes"

No real facts on the Clavicular rape case. Strange she attempted the civil route first. I wonder if it was extortion and this is revenge when he wouldn't play ball. Wouldn't surprise me at all. That lifestyle always leads to this kind of shit.

My issue is that sewing circle christians like Ashy here...is too busy being concerned with how a thing is said rather than what is said. I stand behind my words while she is an anon. Always critical of people in the arena for her view and always graceful to the enemies of her view. Worthless.

I am going to explain why this position of Joel’s is very stupid and makes no sense. It actually sets women and men up for failure, all under the pretense of glorifying women. There are two ways to take “rights” from a group.Both require force. You can vote away the rights of a group. This appeals to the force of the state. The state will then enforce the mandates of these rights, or the lack of them. You can bypass the state and use force for compliance, as the state cannot easily use force to stop collective force. That’s it.When Joel says, “I won’t punch women in the mouth; they are too precious,” he is removing the only two viable options for compliance of force. I also don't want to use direct force. Okay. Then what we are left with are appeals to reason. However, Joel doesn’t believe women are capable of that kind of reason—to defy the mandates of men—because they have less agency. So why is he reasoning with them? If you want the collective will of women to change on the matter of rights, you are going to need to appeal to the state for enforcement. Women can vote and aren’t going to vote away their own voting rights.Why? Because men like Joel want to protect them from their own decisions and from the responsibility that comes with the very rights they demand. This gives women collectively more authority and less responsibility than still have to cover the responsibility, and women can make the Joel Webbon appeal: “Why did men let us do this?” Joel Webbon’s answer: “’Cause we failed.” The Andrew Wilson answer, on the other hand: “You did it to yourself, and now you suffer the consequences of your own actions.” Lindsay Clancy is a great example of this. Women being forced to look at the “fruits” of the sisterhood—who are fully enfranchised and have the responsibility of jury duty—and watching them fail miserably to deliver justice, and being held responsible for it.Joel would call that a failure of men, lol.Yes, we are very different on this issue. I am logical and he is emotional. You can't convince absent consequences. Women need to feel the full weight of their decisions if you want collective change.