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Applied Compute
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Introducing Spork, an efficient post-training recipe which increases our solve-rate on chess puzzles by 100% when compared to our best GRPO setup. It uses a GRPO warmup, splits task-specific datasets further into partitions, trains specialists, and then uses multi-teacher on-policy distillation. Like a Spork, it leverages gains by simply consolidating specialists.
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AC2 now supports decision model training. Teams can build custom Jev-like models for use cases like request routing, content classification, and anomaly detection. Reach out to get started with your own classification task!
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You can now train your own decision model in our platform AC2! Jev-like models, custom fit for your use case :) We implement decision models through a language-model backbone with a small learned output layer called a decision head. The backbone processes the input, question, and answer choices, and the head produces scores which are softmaxed to produce a probability distribution over answer choices. Our software interface makes it easy to add a variable-sized decision head to frontier open-weight models. Choose any open source model, and train it as a decision model using Brier loss or cross-entropy loss. Training updates both the decision head and the language backbone. We tried it on 50k sampled training datapoints from the Civil Comments dataset, starting from Perplexity’s pplx-decider-v1-27b, and F1 for detecting toxic comments increased from 0.482 to 0.677 on 20k sampled eval datapoints. The training job took less than an hour on four B300 GPUs. Reach out to get started with your own classification task:
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Super excited to share this work we've been doing at AC (major kudos to @AtharvNaphade)! It allows us to take a legitimate step towards taking our hands of the wheels during model training. Looking forward to sharing more about how we were able to use it for automating a full end to end training loop 👀
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We're sharing a key step towards enabling Continual Learning at Applied Compute. In On-Policy Self-Distillation, the teacher model supervises training with privileged information: a hint. The training signal depends heavily on hint quality, but manually refining hints across runs is impractical, and isolating their individual impact is difficult. We instead optimize hints automatically using efficient proxies for their eventual training value.
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We're sharing a key step towards enabling Continual Learning at Applied Compute. In On-Policy Self-Distillation, the teacher model supervises training with privileged information: a hint. The training signal depends heavily on hint quality, but manually refining hints across runs is impractical, and isolating their individual impact is difficult. We instead optimize hints automatically using efficient proxies for their eventual training value.
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Post-training on your own data gives you control over your models and pushes out the Pareto frontier on cost, latency, and quality. Our CEO @ypatil125 sat down with @jacobeffron to discuss how AC2 brings down the cost of post-training, runs online training in production, and serves your models with inference on the same platform.
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When is harness optimization enough? When does post-training make sense? What will determine who becomes the new AI hyperscaler? @ypatil125, co-founder of @appliedcompute, was the perfect person to discuss this and more. Yash worked on Codex at OpenAI before leaving to co-found Applied Compute with fellow OpenAI researchers Rhythm Garg and Linden Li. Sixteen months in, the company is a unicorn, and is serving enterprises including DoorDash and Cognition. We cover: 0:00 Intro 1:42 The Case for Owning Your Intelligence 4:35 OpenAI x Baseten and the Multi-Model Future 7:19 Can Post-Training Beat Frontier Models? 9:03 What Data Stays Out of Distribution 11:51 Data Efficiency and Continual Learning 14:31 When Updating Model Weights Makes Sense 16:01 Online Training in Practice 18:16 Lowering the Cost of Post-Training 19:48 Does Every Company Need Its Own Model? 24:06 RL in Non-Verifiable Domains 26:59 How Applied Compute Picks Customers 28:46 Building an Inference Business 34:43 The Case for a New AI Hyperscaler 38:21 Building RL Environments 41:33 Quickfire YouTube: Spotify: Apple:
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Try decision graders on AC2 today: orders of magnitude cheaper and faster while being a better representation of the rubric.
At Applied Compute most of our RL and eval pipelines grade with an LLM judge. These produce one result per rubric criterion, typically a paragraph of text accompanying a score. For some complicated tasks, grading can be a slow, pricey part of the loop. We swapped a grader on a code QA benchmark in AC2 for a decision grader: one call, a yes/no probability for every criterion at once. On 100 sample tasks (407 criteria), same answers: → ~32× cheaper
→ ~8× faster
→ 94% agreement with the LLM judge And it’s even better than the original judge: When the decision grader was confident, it matched the LLM judge 99% of the time. When it wasn't, the decision grader indicated low confidence (30-70%), pointing to ambiguous rubric items. This allowed us to identify noisy tasks and make the dataset cleaner. A cheap, fast, calibrated grader means you can grade more rollouts, ask more questions per call, and downweight or review the shaky calls instead of training on them.
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At Applied Compute most of our RL and eval pipelines grade with an LLM judge. These produce one result per rubric criterion, typically a paragraph of text accompanying a score. For some complicated tasks, grading can be a slow, pricey part of the loop. We swapped a grader on a code QA benchmark in AC2 for a decision grader: one call, a yes/no probability for every criterion at once. On 100 sample tasks (407 criteria), same answers: → ~32× cheaper
→ ~8× faster
→ 94% agreement with the LLM judge And it’s even better than the original judge: When the decision grader was confident, it matched the LLM judge 99% of the time. When it wasn't, the decision grader indicated low confidence (30-70%), pointing to ambiguous rubric items. This allowed us to identify noisy tasks and make the dataset cleaner. A cheap, fast, calibrated grader means you can grade more rollouts, ask more questions per call, and downweight or review the shaky calls instead of training on them.
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Our reward hacking monitor is how our Applied Researchers, like @evandavidellis, catch models cheating during RL. This is calibrated on an internal benchmark of real reward hacks we've observed in our runs. Today, we're rolling out this monitor into AC2.
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We're adding reward-hacking monitors into AC2. Every RL run gets checked for cheating, and our research agent, Ari, automatically investigates the flags. After a model discovers an exploit, it can become its default strategy within a few training steps. We used to hunt for reward hacking manually, reading traces and running one-off agent queries. This was error prone and didn't scale. We decided to automate detection instead.
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Next up on First Pass: A conversation with @ypatil125 from @appliedcompute. Customized models are coming. But how can enterprises get ready for this future? We dug in on questions like that with Yash
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I asked people: "where should enterprises go for post-training as a service?" 30 votes: Applied Compute (@ypatil125, @rhythmrg, @lindensli) 13 votes: Trajectory (@rronak_, @michaelelabd, @QuantumArjun) 10 votes: Prime Intellect (@vincentweisser, @johannes_hage) 7 votes: Thinking Machines (@miramurati, @johnschulman2) 5 votes: Fireworks (@lqiao, @dzhulgakov, @pawelg, @jamesr66a, Chenyu Zhao, @divchenko) 4 votes: Baseten (@tuhinone, @amiruci, @saltyph, @defpan, @mudithj, @maxkirkby, @oneill_c) 4 votes: Together AI (@vipulved, @ce_zhang, Chris Ré, @tri_dao, @percyliang) 2 votes: Arcanum (Rehan Rupawalla, @danielrupawalla, Krish Thawani, @samir_walji) 2 votes: Belvedir (@thezacharyyu) 2 votes: Trainloop (@jackson_stokes, @mlpierce22) 1 vote each: - AfterQuery (@CarlosGeorgescu, @spencermateega) - Bespoke Labs (@madiator, @AlexGDimakis) - Engram (@dan_biderman, @EyubogluSabri, @realJessyLin) - Mercor (@BrendanFoody, @adarsh_exe, @suryamidha) - Radixark (@ying11231, @BanghuaZ) - River AI (@ibab, @dsoboliev, Ievgen Soboliev, Yaroslav Nazarov) - Unsloth (@danielhanchen, Michael Han) People couldn't pick a company they work at or founded. Disclosure: I'm a small investor in AfterQuery, Applied Compute, Arcanum and Trajectory. I didn't vote.
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The adoption of open weights is accelerating, but how do we securely deploy them? We've assembled a framework for assessing and mitigating risks in open weight model deployments based on our experiences post-training with frontier enterprises.
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Gap analysis is how our Applied Researchers, like @_brylee10, surface agent failures across billions of tokens of RL traces for our customers. Using our platform, AC2, and low-cost classifiers like Jev, we can catch 85% of failure modes at a fraction of the cost of LLM judges and turn them into training data.
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I implemented a system in @appliedcompute’s platform for automated failure mode clustering with Jev to surface errors at an even larger scale than before. RL training produces billions of tokens in traces. I always manually read many traces to understand model behavior, but finding agent failures (like reward hacking / hallucinations) at scale is easy to miss without automation. Here’s how it works:
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we partnered with @appliedcompute to post-train a small model for large-scale code search over precomputed indexes at 300 repos, this is ~3x faster than using filesystem + grep, and reduces the marginal cost of a search by up to 100x vs frontier models
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A 35B open-weight model trained to search a precomputed index answers repo search questions at 100x lower cost than a frontier model. We partnered with @turbopuffer to train Qwen3.6-35B-A3B to find code across ~9,000 repositories. It tops the needle-in-a-haystack task outright at 2-10x lower latency.
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Agents are the new discovery layer. We've seen that across 2M+ conversations with Ask DoorDash, where people want agents to step in and carry their intent through to a fulfillable order.
“50% of DoorDash’s agentic restaurant orders are going to places users have never ordered from before.” @andyfang tells our CEO @ypatil125 what happens when agents become the discovery layer. If models increasingly decide what gets surfaced and bought, companies have a strong reason to train and own that intelligence.
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@andyfang and our CEO @ypatil125 get into what actually counts as proprietary data. Sometimes it’s obvious, like customer behavior or merchant data. Other times it’s buried in a support agent hearing “happy birthday” and knowing to send a cake. The opportunity is to turn the judgment @DoorDash has accumulated over years of operating into proprietary intelligence it can own, train, and compound.
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“Until you actually see things operationally, it’s going to be hard to build DoorDash from scratch.” Our CEO @ypatil125 sat down with @andyfang on why cheaper software doesn’t erase years of operating advantage. @DoorDash’s moat is its proprietary data, edge cases, and hard-won knowledge, and increasingly, the models trained on top of it.
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AFAIK AC2 Is the only platform with support for full weight fine tuning of Kimi K3. For short, simple tasks LoRA fine tuning may be similar. But for multi turn, agentic workloads, full weight training is strictly superior. dm if you’re interested in trying AC2
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At Kimi K3 scale, memory directly determines how many GPUs you need for training. For example, streaming gradients for Adam updates cuts the host memory peak by ~33%. Another bottleneck was SiTU-GLU activations. Naive autograd saves redundant tensors and consumes >100GB of HBM at ~100k tokens/GPU. A custom operator that streams through a fixed-size workspace saves ~90GB of HBM per GPU.
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